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Would it not be the equivalent of a what supremacist gang get into the army and get trained and do a couple tours here and there. Comeback home and all go to Canada and pull off a deadly attack? Should the US be blamed for training the group that messed up Canada? Or does the US get a pass because we are a hegemony?

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Does most of the US blame Saudi Arabia for the attack? I've never heard anyone make that claim, let alone MOST people.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Right wingers do, everyone else blames Bush lol

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A good part of the right-wing anti-muslim bigots in our country blame the kingdom of Saudi Arabia for what a criminal group led by a (distant) cousin of the king did.

Most Americans were 13 or younger when 9/11 happened, and only know what their parents, schools, and friends said.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Most Americans were 13 or younger when 9/11 happened

And this is the most painful thing I've read today.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Little while ago Saudi Arabia invited a bunch of comics over and alot of people were calling them sellouts and why would they do that for a country that trained people who commited 9/11. I can get a list if you want?

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was more about Mohammad "Bone Saw" Bin Salman's attacks on the free press, although given the fact that Saudi terrorists, commissioned by a Saudi leader (Bin Laden) trained in Saudi Arabia were the actual culprits of 9/11, it's really hard to not consider the Saudi people at least somewhat culpable for fomenting extremism.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not picking a fight but if that's true then shouldn't the equivalent be given to the US? Or other countries?

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

To the rest of the world, it is looked at that way. The only reason the US doesn't consider their crimes "Their Fault" is the general sense of "American Exceptionalism" that saturates their cultural perception. You think the rest of the world doesn't remember Haiti? Or Guatemala? Or the Philippines? Or the Alaskan Panhandle Incident? Do you think we've forgiven China for Tibet or the Uyghur genocide in Turkmenistan? Or Canada and Australia for their Genocides? The Germans still walk around starting every conversation with outsiders saying "Hi, yes I'm German, and we're very sorry." or something equivalent.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have no doubt that there are ignorant assholes out there, and the reason they believe that is because racism. But I don't think they are anywhere close to being the majority.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about Marc Maron, Pete Davidson (he gets an asterick) , Shane Gillis I can go on. Alot of people spoke out against them after the 911 Report came out. And going out on a limb here probably all of the south who are somewhat educated.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

probably all of the south who are somewhat educated.

That IS going out on a limb.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Would it not be the equivalent of a what supremacist gang get into the army and get trained and do a couple tours here and there. Comeback home and all go to Canada and pull off a deadly attack? Should the US be blamed for training the group that messed up Canada? Or does the US get a pass because we are a hegemony?

Oh, and this? This would absolutely an American attack on an ally. The fact it's not officially commissioned by the DoD does not in any way absolve America more broadly of the crimes of the terrorists they produce.