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[โ€“] folaht@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Like some here who have said it before, it's about survival.
There's no survival issue when it comes to zoophilia.
There still is with eating meat.

To say that most people don't need meat is to ignore more than half the planet.
I thought this place was aware that not everyone can afford a diet,
let alone a healthy vegan diet.

I'm not a big fan of pulling the ladder up behind oneself and start demanding
everyone else to follow suit when they're living in either developing nations or
nations that are in a state of collapse or both.

That said, since natural meat production is theoretically more expensive
than growing meat in a lab,
we'll be heading towards the dissolution of eating farm animals soon
and with it, most farm animals themselves.

[โ€“] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

The wealthier a country becomes, the more meat they eat. The vast majority of the world could survive on a vegan diet. Thrive, even. This isn't about survival, it's about taste.

[โ€“] Soulcreator@programming.dev 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Some of the countries with the large percentages of vegetarians, vegans or predominantly plant forward diets such as India or South East Asia are not wealthy by Western standards. Eating a 'healthy' plant forward diet does not have to be an expensive affair.

The perception that a plant based diet is a wealthy western modern invention is white washing its unglamorous origins as a traditional eastern diet, especially in Buddhist, Jain, Hindu, etc cultures.

To dismiss a plant forward diet because not everyone can afford to eat impossible burgers 7x a week is disingenuous, as people were eating diets with little to no meat for centuries before faux 'beuf' plant minces were invented.

[โ€“] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Vegetarianism in India is more nuanced then that; I personally see it in 4 different facets.

one is that it is the Upper Caste's(who traditionally have more access to wealth) enforcing their values(religious requirement to be a vegetarian) on people who they see as below them.

Many poor people in India disproportionately eat more meat than their richer counter parts.

Animal protein is just cheaper and more dense than plant based protein, and plant based protein is also seasonal as compared to animal based protein.

It also doesn't help that vegetarianism has become a political issue in India, and is part of the ongoing culture wars happening in the country.

[โ€“] andallthat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I agree. Just a comment on lab-grown meat. I'm not sure if that is going to help in developing markets. Maybe a big lab can produce meat that you can buy for less money than you'd need for a real steak in an advanced economy. That doesn't mean that someone in the Philippines countryside can start their own meat-lab instead of raising chicken.