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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

No they're not.

The best Chinese models are good, but they're resoundingly outclassed by the likes of Claude.

And that's not to mention the Chinese models are trained off the American models, i.e. they can't exist without the American ones being developed first.

[–] sanitation@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They don't train off American models, that's just their PR narrative to explain losing the race to a country without latest hardware

[–] sanitation@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-DVxMLFhi3o Glm 5.2 is almost the same as fable, difference is immaterial.

I use deepseek v4 pro daily and it's fine for most tasks and so cheap that I stick those deepseek api keys into most of my applications.