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Dude I've been to Shanghai and from my pea brained American view it was the cleanest and most well designed city I've perhaps ever seen. You just compared tacky American bullshit made of parking lots and misery to a lovely walkable space with nice architecture. Like you can spit on the worship of consumerism on Huaihai road, yeah that's a problem, but it's at least an area built for human fucking beings to be able to exist outside.
So true, I remember when the country of Europe mandated every road be covered in advertisements
honest question - have you been to US cities? I'm sure you've got gripes about Euro cities but the sheer unwalkability of 95% of US cities is astonishing.
You wrote two paragraphs without remembering or double checking what you said? And you insult my reading comprehension? What the fuck lmao
Oh god what a hellscape, a dense walkable area.
Omg that ad is for a skin lightning cream isnt it?
Still streets ahead of that stroad up top
Yes, ads do fucking suck - you're right. But zero walk-ability/bike-ability is fucking awful (and we still have the ads so it isn't even a trade off).
That looks far better? Like yeah advertising sucks and I wish it were illegal but that isn't the only issue with the original image
What are you talking about? Not a beautiful area and some are probably ads but built for walkability not cars only no idea what you are trying to say with this. China does have some areas with unnecessarily enlarged highways you could have posted instead.
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The reason for walkability being better in Europe is the direct result of the 1973 oil crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXNLaHsKMz8
Yes that's the rural struggle certainly - the difference is that many "urban" zones in the US (and likely other parts of the western empire) are dominated by car infrastructure needlessly/maliciously.
Road for cars vs road for people.
Are you and the person the pic is addressing both cars?
I'm sorry, is that supposed to be a comparison of something that's bad? Can you describe what's bad about it?
I mean the single cosmetic ad is a problem and I think ads should be illegal, but all of the other signs are attached to their buildings, rather than being an advertisement. So if you're talking about those, it is not the same.
With the exception of the one, maybe.
I would gladly accept 10x the amount of visible advertising if it meant I got even a fraction of the infrastructure of a typical large Chinese city