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A Microsoft researcher built a goat-powered LLM in Age of Empires II to prove it's not sentient (www.xda-developers.com)
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[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Except we have quala, consciousness. That's a well recognised fact. How do you model something we cannot explain?

So yeah there are "indications" we cannot do it. Maybe we can and emerging properties is the way to go, but it might also not be that.

Do you believe we can?

Edit: the chinese room is a farce IMO, and won't push anything either way.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Many abilities and properties we thought to be exclusive to human consciousness were later proven in animals. Such as the capacity for empathy, thinking ahead, and recognizing yourself in a mirror.

Does that mean animals are partially conscious? Or can we accept that the definition is fuzzy at best, making this a moving target?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That makes it probable I guess, but it absolutely does not prove it. We cannot prove humans are conscious (except ourselves).

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 1 points 51 minutes ago

I was clearly asking from the position of recognising consciousness in other humans. Or is that not your position?

Solipsism is pointless and boring. By that logic, nothing at all can be proven or disproven.