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Help Me Understand The Proton Hate... (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 days ago by pyramidengine@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I've been a paid Proton Unlimited customer for several years now and aside from a few small complaints, I'm generally very happy with the services I'm paying for. I agree that there is too much focus on "sidequests" like Wallet and Meet before core products are fully rebuilt and meeting expectations. I agree that Linux versions and some feature implementations are taking a long time. However, I have a fully functioning suite of Mail, Drive, VPN, Calendar and more that meet 95% of my needs. To be fair, I'm sure the zero-access/zero-knowledge encryption aspect makes development much more difficult.

If you're worried about political affiliations/interests, I'll give you that Andy Yen has made a few worrisome comments. I'm not sure what to do there. Assuming there aren't repeat occurrences, I'm satisfied with their statement about the French political figure sponsorship.

If it's the FBI cases and subpoenas, it comes down to understanding the difference between privacy and anonymity, and knowing what strategy is required to achieve actual anonymity.

So why (especially on Lemmy) is there so much Proton hate/relunctancy? Eager to hear some non-biased, fact-driven thoughts here!

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Its the same wirh firefox... so much FUD spreads for every tiny missetep. And the result is likely that more people stay with gmail/chrome or people killing upstream by supporting forks

[–] Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I'm not aware of the stuff with Firefox specifically, but I think I can agree with the premise. It seems that this boils down to the question of whether "good enough" really is.

This line of thinking is particularly relevant within this community. For instance, Proton/Tuta isn't immune to subpoenas, so the only way I can think of to have truly secure email is to have a self-hosted service with a dead man switch. However, most email providers block most self-hosted email servers... so one either needs to compromise, or not participate. It's an uncomfortable place for a lot of people, and calls into question their morals as well as their commitment to the same. I think this is why points that may seem spurious may often creep in, because we're all trying to find something to better inform our decisions in uncertain circumstances.