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inspired by lemmitors at https://lemmy.ml/post/49343381
any guy in it just for women to wear skimpier clothing should probably be investigated.

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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isnt the place to enumerate but the position of the martyred Leader was that it should be heavily encouraged but nobody should be berated or attacked for not wearing good hijab. Here is link: https://english.khamenei.ir/news/9390

this is the only point I am trying to make, that it is not inherent to the religion to compel hijab, which undermines the entire position of westerners who think it is compulsory. pointing out that there are non religious people and non muslims living their lives without fear of retribution drives the reality home that most people are choosing to veil because they are religious and personally want to, and not because of some threat of violence. they see people being good Muslims and want to emulate that out of devotion, not coercion.

while I agree with the benefits of wearing hijab for those who choose to, and I also understand how the imperialist and colonial powers are driving an anti-western sentiment that contributes to many clinging to hijab as something that should be compulsory as a defense against imperialist cultural hegemony, the desire to make anything compulsory for anyone else seems inherently conservative. Conservationism is often a natural defensive reaction from some external conditions, and even if it is understandable reaction to the legitimate enemy of the world it doesn't make it something I would personally agree with as the desired end goal. in the end it needs to be a personal decision or else the intention in the heart is impure and it is not legitimate submission to the will of Allah swt but a deception born of coercion.

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think i am not communicating what I mean. What I am saying is that "mandatory hijab" for public facing people such as athletes representing their country or newscasters etc can be a good thing. A funny example is like look at the womens volleyball team. One might argue that this isnt even Islamically hijab anyways lol its a symbol nonetheless. Let me just post some images and quotes and you can see what I mean for the nuance.

I think there is some nuance here which is getting lost

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ahh ok I was talking about the idea that wsterners have of mandatory hijab enforced on citizens at large but it seems like you're specifically talking about the dress code requirements for state representatives ?

[–] AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Yes I'm talking about the requirements that exist for state & media representatives and such wear hijab (even if its "bad hijab") in order to represent the country

The French ban is not analogous at all. Like a fabrication.