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[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It doesn't take much land to be self sufficient in vegetables if you are willing to limit your vegetable choices to your climate and to preserve them. However vegetables are the by far easiest part of being self sufficient. Getting your carbs and your proteins is far harder. Say you eat around 300g of grain per day. Then you would need about 219 square meters of grain if you have a typical organic yield. Replace your carbs with potato and maybe you can reduce that by 50%, but then you run into the risk of potato harvest failing, which they often do in organic systems. For proteins you would either have to have animals plus area to grow their feed, or grow a huge area on par with the grains to get enough shelling beans to meet your protein needs. But vegetables? Just a dozen or two square meters should be enough.

Assuming you’re able to produce enough for the off season and have a method to store said food.

It’s called “subsistence farming” and is a crapload of work.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

However vegetables are the by far easiest part of being self sufficient. Getting your carbs and your proteins is far harder.

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[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

can keep chickens for eggs for protein

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And what will the chickens eat? You still have to grow their feed. Buying feed from the feed store is not self-sufficiency

[–] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

I have quail and I grow/make my own feed + a little meal worm setup. Although when I run out of my current supply I plan on buying from the feed store in town. I don't think it saves me any money once everything is factored in and it's a good bit of extra work that could go towards stuff I actually want to eat.

food waste, and theyll forage a bit too

breadfruit tree for carbs