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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I consider myself a “prepper” I don’t prep for the apocalypse but for “next Tuesday” if we have a shelter in place, or some large utility failure, a big earthquake or volcano so I spend time in prepper spaces. The amount of people who are not prepper and genuinely believe they can garden their way to survival is SO high. When we look at places around the world dealing with long term hardships no one is surviving off their personal garden. Farming at scale exists for a reason, growing food is extremely labor, time and resource intensive, unless you’re doing it at scale you’re like net negative in calories for what you’re putting in versus what you’re getting out. Farming livestock that can live off the land like goats or chickens would be more successful but that also takes a good amount of time and labor and the willingness to kill the animals you’ve raised and know how to safely process them.

Anyone who’s worried about needing to provide for themselves in times of extreme hardship should do the research and start getting ready now, don’t worry about gardening, figure out how to get and store long term self stable foods and potable water and anything fresh is just a supplement.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Very true, I love gardening, but its very hard to eke out a meaningful calorie count.

At best it's a supplement. I grow beans (lol) at my place because they really seem to thrive and grow practically like weeds. Beans freeze really well and can be dehydrated.

I bought a large dehydrator to compliment my dry goods food storage, which is up to about 8 months worth of dry goods, 3 months of tinned. I like to buy fruit at wholesale prices when it's in season at the farms near me, and make fruit leather, and I make my own biltong. But I also get bags of frozen veg and dehydrate these right from the bag. They pack down much smaller than frozen and are very easy to do. I also have a bunch of citrus trees for vitamin C and easy sugars.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Very true, I love gardening, but its very hard to eke out a meaningful calorie count.

Potatoes.

Until you get blight, anyway, then you're fucked.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Actually this is true. I grew potatoes once, in big tubs, and ended up with like 30kg from 1 square metre. I still have some boiled and frozen in my freezer

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Yeah they produce insanely well.

Potatoes for calories / nutrients + beans for protein / nutrients + (I havent tried this yet but) high-producing grain like Amaranth for calories seems the best combo, but you'll still need community to survive no doubt

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago

You'll have to trade with people who have more or other things. I'd wager things like salt, sugar, baking powder, yeast , spices, nails, screws, hand tools, will be in high demand come a large-scale long-term collapse.

I mean there was a Silk Road for a reason.

[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago

So grimly true.