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It's been a while since I was fired from my job, so here's a picture of Windows updating at the wrong time
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this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2026
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I don't like Windows, but at the point where the laptop updates automatically hasn't it been bugging you about the update for hours or even days? I generally file complaints about bad update timings in the "fucked around and found out" folder
Honestly I don’t even remember, this was a long time ago, but if I recall the shitass Dell computer I was given had an SSD that repeatedly disconnected and required a forced reboot. Updates were managed automatically by the org so I don’t think I was ever prompted to update during my short time there. When I powered the shitter on Windows decided it was apparently a good time to update.
nope. it can just come out of nowhere sometimes.
Not in the EU region lol
I mean, shouldn't you be able to refuse updates anyway ? Like if there is something you don't like or that will break your workflow in the update, shouldn't you be able to accept the risks and keep the old version indefinitely ?
Edit : a word was missing.
No, because devices need to be compliant, there needs to be an unskipable deadline. Otherwise everyone would just defer.
Do they really imperatively need to be compliant ? (i genuinely don't know, but it seems weird to me, it feels like i can just postpone updates indefinitely on linux)
Or is this that it's way better to be compliant, so companies need to enforce it on their computers (but individuals may not have this need) ?
You can postpone them but it’s a risk. Companies try to mitigate risks, because they don’t want to get hacked or fined because they don’t follow regulation. And to be honest it’s in your best interest to be up to date too. It’s not such a pain in the ass to reboot your computer every once in a while :)
Plus, he is on Linux. It would take him all of 5 minutes to update on the slowest of hardware.
Companies lock out the computer because it is lacking updates rather than have it working. Apple broke ssh on all their macs with an update for three months or so. Managed to postpone it for a while until the called and said I have to update or be locked out. Luckily I had postponed it for so long that the next update arrived just like a week later.
When you say "companies", do you mean Apple/Microsoft or the company you're working for/with ?
I meant the one you are working for
Okay, i see, i'm not that familiar with tech companies. I wouldn't have guessed they'd be that aware of what version of OS people are using.
A personal laptop of an employee is a very good entrypoint for an attacker. First thing you do is log in to your job. It may be a vpn, a site login, some token gets stored on your computer for the day. If someone gets access to this, it can be devastating. So, if a vulnerability gets discovered and patched by the OS, it can be very important to update as soon as possible. So companies scan their empoyees laptops, is one thing, and if the try to connect they also try to check that the computer appears up to date, is known, and so on.
No, not on a business owned device. The updates should give warnings, of course. Some companies don’t seem to know how to supply those warnings before mandating the install, for some reason.
The admins are not InTune with the latest technology
It doesn’t require „newest technology” (or Intune;)), you could send sensible notifications with SCCM 2007. Not that people would read or act upon them. Some of them would obviously complain there were no notifications (because they simply ignored them and forgot about it) :D
My company uses a third-party deployment platform that gives you dialog with a 60 minute countdown and a button to start immediately. And I think the deployment dialog can't pop up if you're not on the computer. Because nobody likes nonsense like five minute countdowns that can start while the screen is locked.
Still, though, I prefer an OS where I can fuck around in that regard and not find out.
It really is a situation where you can't make everyone happy. If you don't force users to update eventually you get situations like WannaCry, where millions of PCs get hit by ransomware exploiting a vulnerability that was patched two months ago
Well, you could make a lot more people happy by making the update process less invasive.
It's particularly egregious that Windows not only needs to restart to apply updates (sometimes multiple times), but that these update restarts take much longer than normal restarts. Even if a Linux distro did force you to update, it still wouldn't be as problematic, because Linux can update in the background, without interrupting you -- and if it needs a restart in order to apply those updates, the restart doesn't take any longer than restarting the computer normally. You never come across the uniquely Windows issue of "I can't use my computer at all for the next 45 minutes because it's updating."
If the Windows update process wasn't so invasive and debilitating, people might not put it off so much. (Also, if people could trust that Windows updates would actually make their computer better, rather than worse... When you use forced updates to arbitrarily change user settings, to push spyware and bloatware, to shall we say strongly encourage the use of features that nobody asked for ... well, of course that makes people reluctant to update.)
This. I never got why ios or Ms can't take this route. It's insane to not just update the files on disk then reboot. I'd like to think there's a technical reason that couldn't do this but considering it's ms I'm not sure that's why.
Probably because of their fucking dinosaur of a filesystem. NTFS was created in fucking 1993. And 33 years later, it's still not only the default filesystem for Windows, but (barring certain very niche exceptions) it's still the most modern and most advanced filesystem Windows is capable of using!
How is a company with resources like Microsoft incapable of developing and introducing a new filesystem? Or, hell, there's nothing stopping them from just adopting and supporting one of the many better open-source filesystems out there.