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Consoles were always a walled garden from the very start, very purposefully so, and those things tend to squeeze customers once captured with higher prices and, sooner or later, fully enshittify.
So when consoles originally appeared I just kept gaming on the PC because it was an open platform and the only console I ever had was a WII (the original one) because their controller was at the time innovative, and honestly it wasn't really worth it.
Then, specifically for the PlayStation there's Sony, who have a long track record of anti-consumer actions that started when their leadership stopped coming from the Engineering Division and started coming from their Media Division (after they bought a Movie studio in the US), from their electronics becoming locked down and restrictive for users (they're the ones who came up with Blu-Ray, which was way more locked down to block copying than DVDs were) to the infamous shipping of music CDs with rootkits (the "Sony Rootkit" scandal)
So this increasing enshittification of the PlayStation isn't at all surprising and suspect it will get even worse than this.
Ultimately I think the PlayStation platform will end up dying.
PC games are pretty much locked down to the original purchaser. Console games could be bought and sold used. Once I was done with a console generation I just sold everything on ebay and made back a bunch of my money (especially since I bought most of it used as well).
PC games are a whole different beast. But now that most console games are locked to an account... there's really no benefit of them anymore. Just get a PC for your living room and install SteamOS (or similar).
Back in the era of physical media PC games too could be bought and sold used (though only some: it really boiled down to whether it used phone-home DRM or not, something which in the PC world was all over the place).
But yeah, you were right that console games could be bought and sold used in a much more standardized way, whilst that wasn't really a value proposition in the PC were such possibility was not at all a standard feature of PC games and it wasn't really reliably supported in the broader ecosystem (for example, with game stores not usually buying back used PC games as they often did for console games).
Naturally, as a unique value proposition (vs PC games) used as bait to get users inside the console walled garden in earlier days, this feature of console games was taken away from users with their enshittification.
Personally, I always thought that in the PC world the absence of this was balanced by games being a lot cheaper and even piracy for those for whom even the cheaper PC games weren't cheap enough, and in the long run, as we see, the "much cheaper" part is being way harder for PC publishers to try and undo (they've definitely tried of late, and IMHO it's failing which is why AAA game publishers are bitching and moaning that their market share is falling) than the used console games market was, and the piracy part is even harder.
If there's one think I learned early on in Tech as a professional already back in the 90s is that in the mid and long term sticking to open tech will save you from getting squeezed, both as a professional when choosing 3rd party tech stacks and as a consumer. This has just become more so as the normalization of always-on Internet connectivity meant that the external 3rd party could control much more tightly and and in realtime how the software they provided was used, including adding further restrictions on use at a later stage.
consoles predate gaming pcs and likely your existence. Your comment's spirit is not false but it is a lie. do better
If you go by the definition of "console" than includes things like the ZX Spectrum or the Amiga, then you are partly correct (you got my age wrong) as all home computing started with such "consoles" (and then there was a time when it was pretty much all PCs, and then came the modern consoles which are the ones I was talking about).
Technically speaking the modern age "console" was a reinvention of the "game consoles" of the pre-PC era, only originally the "closed system" nature was mainly a technical limitation as there was way less uniformisation of things like CPUs, whilst the closed system nature of the modern age consoles was a choice.
Having lived and used computing devices in both eras, I would say that the modern ones have almost nothing to do with the original ones, especially the business model - things like the ZX Spectrum tried to be open and educational (for example, by including a built-in BASIC language interpreter) whilst things like the PlayStation are almost the opposite.
omg learn to write. Blather