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[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

You have permafrost melting so northern tundra areas will be worse to build on going forward. But the context is tiny rural places that don't have roads and you travel by plane or snowmobile, they're not getting cable.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

How many people is that? Maybe a million in the entire world? Less? I dont think internet is on their mind that much tbh

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Could do point to point wireless. And only have towers every so often. The land is cwey flat.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

they're not getting cable.

why not?

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hundreds of miles of expensive cable because terrain make expensive to serve dozens of hundreds.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago

It's significantly cheaper still. Cable is dirt cheap, technology of laying cable is mature and we already have roads developed to piggy back off infra off. Now think about satellites that only live a few years and are incredibly expensive and immature.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Which part of permafrost do you not understand?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Beyond permafrost it's also extremely remote and often separated from Anchorage (metro area has the majority of the population of Alaska, at a similar population to the city of Cleveland) by national parks, mountains, and rivers. It's very expensive to run cable out to such small populations

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 9 hours ago

Do they have electricity?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ah. I see. You're thinking to let the fiberglass cables lose on top of permafrost like it's a hose from a shed.

If you're able, you can learn why that is a bad idea online. There is plethora of reasons why fiberglass cables usually go underground.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I genuinely don't understand you. Ok so they go underground next to a road - then what? They freeze and explode? Or do you imply we can't afford to dig ditches but can afford to fire rockets?

[–] Shitbrains@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

Are you implying there's a large amount of people not connected by roads? How many you think?

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I literally direct you again to fucking google that, because the first response from Google literally tells you why that will not fucking work.

Are you so entitled that you demand we copy paste it for your pleasure.

The google will include the over-the-air elevated fibreglass that costs 20x more per mile than anywhere else, why it would cost one third of that number a year to maintain, why it cannot go underground (because of permafrost melting when being dug up and turning into mud and bog and sinking the installation and million other things), thst there are no roads in many places at all, etc. etc.

Your laziness is offending.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Lmao rage more you fuckong weirdo. Straight to the block list. Bye.