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[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm very worried about everyone here. Really, I know that there is a way out that isn't suicide--it's revolution--but it seems like you've all submitted to Capitalist Realism. I've thought about risking my life in an attempt to overthrow the state, but unlike you all, I am legitimately afraid of losing my life. It'd be such a sad note to end my life on. I wouldn't be there to see any surprising good things happen. I wouldn't get to see a socialist system established before me, and I wouldn't be able to do anything to help anyone. How come you all feel fine about death? There's nothing afterwards. There were the Viet Cong who couldn't live to see their country establish socialism, there were the Leninists who died fighting the Tsar who couldn't see the Soviet Union come to be, there were the slaves who died in Southern plantations who couldn't see Juneteenth. If you were really willing to die, you'd die in battle.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Bruh bleeding out in a pit of mud on the battlefield as other random people fall on top of my already crushed ribs is way fucking worse than a bullet to the dome.

Plus, this revolution could easily go the other direction and I'll end up being tortured to death anyway. I feel like this take is possibly the most historically ignorant one possible.

[–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

People don't really feel "fine about death" but more like "being alive feels worse than death".

There is almost always some thing in such a person's life that is causing such feelings. Even if someone thinks the world is better off without them, it's caused by how they "perceive" their impact on the world, which can be caused by the way other people interact with them.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem with the Western middle class is they've been conditioned to think they're part of the ruling class.

They believe that the ruling class' successes are their own, until it's time to get ready to go to work the next day.

They see themselves as above poor people and believe they're entitled to more before those who have less.

They always believe the solution to their problems is to make more, not spend less.

The issue isn't just capitalism. It's not just greed. It's a culture of consumerism. Hopefully anyone who has been around for a few decades can recognize how much the social landscape has changed in favor of encouraging people to sell themselves out as quickly as possible.

We are living in the most negative of peaces.

[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you explain your ideas in more detail? I'm not understanding, but want to read more.

[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

It was word salad a bit, but I was concerned about people either wanting to die or trying to make clever quips about it.

The term Capitalist Realism I took from Mark Fisher's book, Capitalist Realism, in which he describes people believing (at the time the book was written) that Capitalism is "human nature", applies to everything, and that all attempts to the contrary are fruitless. And when someone is buried in debt, and believes in Capitalist Realism, they'd probably commit suicide out of hopelessness. This is why it's so important to understand how socialism works, and work for its establishment.

TL;DR I understand that the problems are caused by Capitalism. They are fixable, there is still hope, and I worry about so many people considering and glorifying suicide.