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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The country that invented the internet... has the worst internet infrastructure in the developed world. Worse than some developing countries too. Astonishing.

astonishing

No, its pretty in character.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, we in Germany are almost as bad for almost those prices.
That's more astonishing to me.

[–] curbstickle_lw@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Is it really??

I used to be jealous of some friends with their 10mbit symmetric lines while I was getting a whopping 4mbps (down only) on cable. (Obviously.... not recent).

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

While most around us (Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands for example) have either 10gbit fiber amd or cheap internet, Germany meanwhile has much DSl or coax commections. Fiber is getting popular and is subsidized heavily (you basically receive it for free to the house when signing a contract for some years) a good chunk of seniority are refusing it with "Well, DSL was already enough for me. I don't need this new fangled stuff. And it costs 75-100% thab my current contract for more unneeded bandwidth. Nah, I'll pass on the offer".

Meanwhile the grandson in 30 years will be very "thankful" for a house in a good condition and having to order a telecom contractor to connect the house to fibre network for 10k €. Just because granny was (not unjustified) a bit cheap.

And this analogy can be expanded to the highest of governments in Germany.
Old rich people, disconnected from reality, ruling over the commoners and deciding their fates.
Just recently our local newspaper showed an example of it.
A divorced/widowed father with a grods income of 5000€ would receive more state child support than an equal family with an income of 3500€.

Just why...

Quote from the paper (feel free to use a translator of choice)

Das Finanzministerium nannte Beispiele. Demnach soll beispielsweise ein Paar aus Pflegekraft und Busfahrer mit je 2.800 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern 2028 eine Entlastung von rund 632 Euro im Jahr bekommen. Ein Paar aus Erzieher und Elektrikerin mit je 3.200  Euro brutto und zwei Kindern bekommt rund 642 Euro mehr.
Ein Paar aus Lehrerin und Ingenieur mit je 5.000  Euro brutto und zwei Kindern kann mit rund 678 Euro mehr rechnen. Eine alleinerziehende Pflegekraft mit 2.800 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern soll mit rund 468 Euro entlastet werden, eine alleinerziehende Erzieherin mit 3.200 Euro brutto und zwei Kinder mit rund 471 Euro und ein alleinerziehender Lehrer mit 5.000 Euro brutto und zwei Kindern mit rund 496 Euro.

(I really hope I understood the article correctly and not making a fool out of myself. But the idiocracy should be enough to see where it's generally going here in Germany)

[–] green_link@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

the US didn't invent the internet. yes the US made ARPNET, which is the underlying functions that the internet was built upon. but the internet that we know today wasn’t created in the US, the WORLD wide web was created in Switzerland in 1989 by Sir Tim Berners-Lee while working at CERN (the European Organization for Nuclear Research). the world wide web, or the internet, uses a lot of the same protocols that ARPNET created. but ARPNET is not and was not world wide until Sir Tim used the same protocols to allow regular people to traverse ARPNET from around the world. the US built the underlying tech, but Sir Tim Berners-Lee and CERN built the internet on top.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

The web is a layer on top of the internet. They're not the same thing.