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[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The price isn't that much more. You can easily compare that.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The price is 38% higher than a comparable ASUS laptop. That also doesn’t include Windows. (Which is how I would buy it, but most people would want Windows on it.)

Now let’s say you upgrade it. That’s another $600 for a new motherboard down the road, plus maybe new ram and ssd, but we’ll say it stays on DDR5. That’s $2570 for the laptop and one upgrade, compared to $2460 if you buy two ASUSes. And what do you get for that money?

Framework:

  1. A laptop.
  2. A motherboard with no RAM and no SSD. Maybe you could use it one day if you invest a bunch of money into getting more parts and one of those cases. Then you’ll maybe have a mini PC after you spend a lot more money.

ASUS (or, just normal laptops I guess):

  1. A laptop.
  2. Another whole god damned laptop that you can use for something else or give to a family member or sell or something, because it’s an entire laptop.
[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

When your Framework has a problem with the screen, you buy a new screen for 300.

When your ASUS has a problem with the screen, you buy a new laptop. Which isn't going to be on special at the time.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve fixed tons of screens on laptops. Generally it’s harder than Framework, true, but it’s not impossible. Even if you have to pay a shop $800 to fix the screen, you’re still coming out cheaper than the Framework.

There’s zero financial reason to buy a Framework, ever. It will not save you any money. That being said, some people want to buy them to support the company, or because they like the repairability/upgradability, and sure, those are valid reasons to buy them. But don’t spread lies saying it will save you money. They are expensive products with mediocre build quality.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, computer repair people are not exactly the target audience. Enjoy your ASUS I guess.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, who is the target audience then? It’s certainly not regular people. They will never take apart their computers. The Framework is 100% marketed at tinkerers and DIYers. (It’s literally called the DIY edition when you buy it.)

I’m not a computer repair person. I have repaired my own computers, but that’s not my job. So I’m not sure if that’s what you meant, but no, I’m not a professional repair tech.

I don’t own that ASUS. I own a Framework. I regret buying it. It’s absolutely not worth the extra price. I’ve already had to buy a new battery for it after two years, because they use cheap, shitty parts, despite charging out the nose for them. So yeah, I wish I had just bought an ASUS.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So, sell your framework and buy an ASUS?

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I already paid the money for the Framework. They tricked me. They got my money. I already lost.

When it eventually dies, I will not consider another Framework. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me… you can’t get fooled again.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

you can sell the Framework. There is quite a large market for used ones, as most of their customers don't seem to agree with you.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

I understand that I can sell it. Why would I? I wouldn’t be able to get a better laptop for what I sold it for, so I’d just go through all of that hassle to have a similar laptop. Unless they somehow don’t depreciate and I’m just unaware of that…