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Suspecting AI cheating, Ivy League prof ordered an in-person final; scores fell 50%
(arstechnica.com)
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This is why I'm nervous about going back to school too. I've seen people find out their professors are just using AI and it feels so...gross. You pay a lot for school! What's the point if it's all just phoned in? And then to top it off you aren't guaranteed a good job afterwards even if you do well.
I wish there was a better solution to all of this because I would like to change my life trajectory as I've grown tired in my current position
before AI it was a software(s) to screen out your writing in non English classes. it was literally try to "guess" if you are copying from somewhere or making the essay vague or not or , which i find it wierd, because its very subjective. usually in a stem class, thse prof dont have time to read your paper, or a small article, so they use a software to assume you arnt just copying from a site, or it thinks your paper may or may not show relevant details.
You have the right attitude and I hope you are able to successfully shop around. Some institutions are paying below living wages to overworked and precariously employed instructors. Of course they phone it in. Those places are not worth your money and just trying to cash in on the "diploma" =="job ticket" mentality.
Find a place that actually gives a shit about education and you should find professors interested in actual education that will see your attitude as refreshing.
apparently IVY league schools arnt immune to AI slop- dumbing down. i think covid made both professors and STUDENTS lazy to the point they would just try to AI(likely to just search the answers online). from what ive seen colleges are pretty stingy at hiring people once they get enough tenured, they avoid paying more by having temporary instructors, either adjunct PHDs, MS holders, and the rare BS holder.
probablly better of starting at CC first taking all your GE classes, then looking at 4years to transfer to, this gives you time to research schools.
Damn, I never thought about how AI is making it so that even the professionals are unprofessional now… because AI enables the posers to get the job, and then they keep using AI to keep the job.
How can you maintain a workforce of specializations under these conditions?
It's not just posers, it's also an issue of just being easy, so even a seasoned, experienced professor can use it to avoid hours of prep for materials that would then be above the cut of the LLM content. Still lowers the standard, but without even changing the professors.
even before Ai, stem professors dont really have time going through peoples papers, or exams, so they use a software to screen out the paper of said students, its still pretty subjectively grading students. because its assuming things like is this student lifting the material from somwhere else? or is talking about what you what want, or assuming a specific sentence is relevant or not.
Yes, absolutely. Laziness (on anyone's part) isn't the result of or unique to AI use. That includes laziness on the part of schools in not doing their job in staffing properly, and pushing professors and teachers to pick up the slack.
they can just AI generate all thier slides, and course material and just read off it verbatim. before AI, we had a biochem teach in college that only read off slides, very unhelpful in learning, when the tests came around it wasnt remotely similar to her slides at all. she would rather do research, which i assume most profs would than teach. not really surprising most students either got C-s or Ds in her class.
You get a piece of paper at the end that proves you've gone through the class barrier hurdle successfully, thus demonstrating that you're not one of those filthy poors, so you're eligible for one of the good jobs.
Not even that these days. The good jobs are for people with connections. Those who made it through based on merit are more likely to end up as office drones that can be let go if the CEO wants a higher quarterly bonus to spend on gold trim for his third yacht.
Well, that's what they mean by one of the 'good jobs'.
Because, sure, that still sucks ass. But at least you're not sweating like a pig and getting skin cancer while mowing lawns. At least you're not pissing in a bottle and stepping over dead coworkers for Amazon. And at least you're not getting physically assaulted by irate customers who are mad at your employer's terrible policies in some shitty dead-end retail place.
Until those layoffs happen, you get to work in an air conditioned office. You get a chair to sit in. You might even get lunch breaks sometimes!
I was working while I went through it and it was hell. Now that I have all this knowledge crammed in my tiny brain it is easy to take the higher road, but I do wonder if I had a chance to cheat, if I wouldn't rather do that than mixing sleep deprivation and stimulants to try to keep my Cs afloat.