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google search results are still kind of useful especially for non-english language queries, anyone knows a good alternative?

searxng also doesn't really seem to work these days..

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[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This might be one of those things where self hosting isn't worth the pain, like email.

I've been using Kagi for several years now and have been very happy with it.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, fuck Kagi.

They are literally giving part of your subscription fee to fucking Russia. In comparison, DuckDuckGo have ended their partnership with Yandex. Vlads refusal to follow suit and his steadfast support of Yandex is quite telling to say the least.

Yet another part of your subscription goes to Elon Musks xAI to support Grok in their AI assistant. Even if you are not using that model, all paying users are effectively subsidizing the cost of the Grok API calls. You can't opt out of that.

[–] beegnyoshi@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Man, I used kagi for 2 months or so and stopped subscribing after that because while there wasn't really anything that I'd seen that'd make me outright unsubscribe there were many things that I found odd and it didn't make sense to pay so much for a product that I didn't agree with all that much. For instance:

I was unable to remove yandex from my search because:

what makes it difficult to act on this is that Kagi does not save searches as a matter of privacy policy, and including more moving parts would make debugging search quality issues nearly impossible

Despite having so many AI features that barely fit into a search engine, such as a translator (slop frontend) and an entire browser?

It called itself "unprofitable" because search is so expensive while giving an honestly insane quota of AI use as far as I can understand (ex. if user pays 10$ for the kagi subscription: 10$ - 20% worth of tokens = 8$ total quota), giving 100 free searches with, as far as I could see, very little protection against burner emails (the translator seems to not need an account at all and it's an llm frontend, so it shouldn't be cheap), and it had many different views in many different places from me.

But all that made me do was hmmm and shrug it off. I mean, we're different humans from different backgrounds, of course we'd hold different views.

But holy shit. Hoooooooly shit. That conversation about the GDPR in the article. What the fuck. What in the actual fuck did I just read there. The fact that the CEO emailed him an explanation despite him explicitly asking to not be emailed too. Bruh.

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Searxng has been pretty sweet, been hosting my own for about a year and some change with pretty good results.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

I do get blocked by engines occasionally which can have a drastic impact on results.