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Everything I don't like is Russian! (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by hamid@crazypeople.online to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Off the top of my head?

USA and Europe are the authoritarian masters of a internationalist capitalist empire that are bad actors and the actual "axis of evil"
NATO is part of a global order that promotes and projects western imperial military interests and exists to reinforce US/EU weapons manufacturer sales and use.
Hamas are heroes.
Hezbollah are heroes.
China would be a better steward of a global economic order than the US/EU capitalist empires of the past 500 years and we do not believe the Chinese have the same imperial ambitions.
The USA is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy with a fixed political structure that has nothing to do with what the people there want or vote for.
White people in the USA are settler petite bourgeois and not part of the global proletariat. They are not allies, they are enemies.
There is no difference between a white American and an Israeli
Donald Trump isn't an aberration of US politics and is par for the course. He is not a foreign asset or brought to power by Russia and is in fact the most American thing ever.
It was in fact the US who over threw the Russian government and installed a president there. Putin and the Russian capitalist oligarchs are mercenaries who typically work for the US but have fallen from favor and are being attacked now to balkanize the region for profit.

[–] i_ben_fine@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to read so much more about point 10

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The US conducted the cold war to force the SU into a spending spiral that collapsed their economy. They then spent billions of dollars to install Yeltsin into power. Putin came up through the FSB and and the connections to leverage the oligarchy and institute mafia control of the country. They then worked with the Americans for decades to sell them space launches, military assistance, natural resources and purchase financial services. When the whims of American empire changed they started to poke at Russian sovereignty over and over with an aim to collapse the nation for profit.

Instead of disbanding NATO when the SU fell, they expanded it into former Soviet states and entered them into mutual military purchasing agreements with the US.
Funding separatist and terrorist groups throughout the Russian periphery to increase military pressure on Russia (Georgia, Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan)
Used the CIA and other NGO groups in Ukraine to overthrow their government to one that is friendly to the US/EU and hostile Russia causing a civil war where Russian speaking people live in Ukraine and a decade of fighting.
Russia didn't invade out of nowhere, they were responding to ongoing fighting in Russian majority areas. Do I personally think the "SMO" was a good move? No, but do I understand it and think that Russia poses a structural threat to US/EU interests? Also no.
They conducted a massive military build up in countries surrounding Russia.
The US took all of the Russian money in US/EU banking institutions and kept it. If you are holding a huge percentage of someones capital/money hostage and they have no recourse to unfreeze their assets under your management, who controls who? Don't you think that if the Russians had full control over the US government thru illicit means or "kompromat" on Donald Trump that the first course of action would be to unfreeze their assets? People in the US believe Putin was the puppeteer on his meetings with Trump but in reality this person (Putin) was going to their boss and asking for their money back and being told no. The Russian response was to state plainly that Donald Trump is not in control of the US and isn't worth speaking to and that Americans are "agreement incapable" are these the words and actions of the person with an upper hand?
The Anglo empire have wanted to break apart the Russian empire since the 19th century. It is a long term historic objective of US/UK imperial interests going back to the Crimean war and before. It was only interrupted by the challenge of an Imperial Germany. The US/UK empires want Russia to pay for the October Revolution in particular with full collapse and balkanization.
The Anglo empire wants to split up Russia into its constituent republics and states and pit every one against each other for their profit. They want to sell weapons to the Tartars, they want to extract the natural resources at a discount.

[–] i_ben_fine@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

Thank you for such a thorough response. That's a lot for me to learn about.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US isn't an oligarchy, but Trump isn't an aberration?

[–] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US is an oligarchy, not a democracy, which means Trump, an oligarch, isn't an aberation.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Oh! I was reading the whole list as the POV of bad opinions, not OPs opinions opposing other common opinions. It all makes much more sense.

[+] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Saying Hamas and Hezbollah are heroes is garbage. You can support Palestinian rights, oppose Israeli abuses, and still recognize that murdering civilians, taking hostages, repressing opponents, and serving authoritarian religious movements isn’t heroic.

Typical white savior bullshit. You offer nothing, you have no solutions, you do nothing to support Palestinian rights, you do nothing to oppose Israel but are also the one who knows the one true way to do this? All while living in the empire and paying for the structures in the world that cause the abuse of Palestine, Lebanon and other places. IF you are so certain that what you say is true, why don't you do literally anything? They are the only ones resisting. You are doing nothing. They are heroes.

The China claim is also garbage. Criticizing Western imperialism doesn’t mean pretending China has no imperial ambitions or would somehow be a gentle, democratic world leader. That’s just swapping one form of empire worship for another.

Chinese imperial ambitions are different and not hell bent on global domination. Unlike Europe, China has been a global hegemon for thousands of years. Will they be perfect? No, will they be better and more willing to operate in a multipolar world than the west? I believe that

The claim that all white Americans are class enemies is racist nonsense wearing Marxist vocabulary. A white cashier or warehouse worker doesn’t own capital because they’re white. Racial privilege and economic exploitation can both exist at the same time.

Sorry the truth hurts, white devil. The white cashier in the US supports its empire and imperial systems. The white nurse is part of the settler class that seized native lands and refuses to return or even pay the people you stole it from the money you are legally required to in the treaties you signed. The US is a settler colonial disease and its citizens - white americans - are complicit in its crimes. To call someone racist for calling out white supremacy is hilarious to me. Racism only flows from whites, the global proletariat can not be racist to white people because we lack the power to enforce our racial bias. You are the racist because of how you live your life.

“There is no difference between a white American and an Israeli” is also nonsense. Neither group is politically, racially, or morally uniform. An American nurse in Ohio isn’t the same as an armed West Bank settler, and an Israeli peace activist isn’t the same as Netanyahu.

Netanyahu is literally a fucking American. There are no Israeli "peace" activists. If they were a peace activist they would leave Israel. Israel, like the US, has no right to exist. Like Rhodesia, they must be dismantled.

The last claim is mostly conspiracy theory. The US did meddle in post-Soviet Russia and supported disastrous economic policies under Yeltsin. But it didn’t install Putin as a mercenary and then decide to break Russia apart for profit. Putin has his own ideology, power base, ambitions, and responsibility for his actions.

Using the language of the CIA to discount historical facts then misrepresented what I said. I never said the US installed Putin I was talking about Yeltsin, and in another comment I clarified Putin came up through the FSB and leveraged his connections in Russia to come to power. He is a mercenary that works for the highest bidder.

The garbage parts are the terrorist hero worship, China worship, racial essentialism, and the claim that every world event is secretly controlled by Washington.

You are a propagandized imperial stooge of the empire you live in. You are the enemy of the free people of the world. It is not racial essentialism to state that White USAmericans are part of a specific petite bourgeois class of settlers. I didn't claim all white people around the entire world are the same, it is specific to the white USAmericans. I also never made the claim that every world event is secretly controlled by Washington you just made that up because you are discussing in bad faith and from a position of perceived authority. I said a handful of specific events were orchestrated by the Empire administrated from Washington. The only utter garage in this thread is you and your worthless life.