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Disclaimer: I know enough about astronomy to know that I know pretty much nothing.

As dark energy was explained to me, it is a placeholder in the equation(s) for measuring the expansion of the universe. Rephrasing, we know the universe is expanding but we can't account for some amount of the force involved.

I hope I am making sense and I am not too far out in the weeds.

To my question: all of the stars are blasting out not just photons but also substantial amounts of physical matter in various states (gas, plasma, solid) that also includes material from the various objects in the solar system (eg atoms of water from mars). Wouldn't that mixture of massless photons and physical material have some significant influence on everything else?

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I think you're mixing up dark matter and dark energy. Dark energy isn't a real thing, it's the placeholder to make certain math come out to work in reality. Dark matter, on the other hand, is, as far as we can tell, a very real thing, but very hard to measure since it only mostly only interacts with other matter via gravity. That gravity is what's affecting the formation, motion, and expansion of the universe.

While stars are blasting out matter, black holes are blasting out jets, and everything is emitting energy, yes it does affect some bodies, but that effect pales in comparison to the sheer mass of the bodies themselves. Look at spacecraft with solar sails. They need to be small and light, with huge sails, and even then they take a long time to get up to speed. Now compare that imparted energy to even a nearby planet: even Mercury isn't significantly affected in its orbit.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Nope. Wrong.

BOTH are not "real" things, as far as you describe. They BOTH describe phenomenon we have no precise explanations for.

Dark matter: Many (NOT all) galaxies rotate or otherwise act like they have a LOT more mass around them than we can observe. Mostly visible by further out objects rotating faster than they should. If there were only as much mass as we can see, outer objects should mostly be waaaay slower.

Dark energy: The furthest distances in the universe are accelerating away from us. That acceleration requires energy from somewhere. It does NOT happen within galaxies, but of course we can see millions of galaxies with the ultra-sensitive telescopes we have today.

In BOTH cases, we do not have a detailed explanation for, but we DO have MANY observations that confirm the effects. They are BOTH real phenomenon, and neither have solid explanations, yet. Hence the "dark xxx" names.

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