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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49853131

Feels to me like GrapheneOS did exactly what it should, passing the US border test with flying colours!

Funny part about this lawsuit: “With a little planning ahead of time, you can always download the data you need once you get to where you’re going,”

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, and only JUDGES are able to make that determination.

There is no stature in Federal or State law that says this is a crime, and no superceded precedent for this.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No it can be police that charge.

My state 100% has this law and police charge suspects for this.

ORC 2921.12 Tampering with evidence.

(A) No person, knowing that an official proceeding or investigation is in progress, or is about to be or likely to be instituted, shall do any of the following:

(1) Alter, destroy, conceal, or remove any record, document, or thing, with purpose to impair its value or availability as evidence in such proceeding or investigation;

(2) Make, present, or use any record, document, or thing, knowing it to be false and with purpose to mislead a public official who is or may be engaged in such proceeding or investigation, or with purpose to corrupt the outcome of any such proceeding or investigation.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of tampering with evidence, a felony of the third degree.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

In your Section A right there: "official proceeding"

There was no crime in progress, suspicious activity, or active charges brought against this person.

Maybe reread the article.

Also, Police do not bring charges, Prosecuting Attorneys do. Police are only responsible for investigations and arresting. Everything else is cleared by the legal system first.

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You're wrong and arguing in bad faith now.

People get charged with tampering for all types of shit, like eating drugs during an arrest. The laws surrounding the bordes are dumb as fuck, but legally-speaking border operations can be construed as official proceedings, although it's only an investigation that is required. Which it obviously was.

Prosecutors ultimately argue charges, but police organize those charges before presenting them to the the state.

Knock it off. Stop being a contrarian weirdo.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You seem to have zero knowledge on the subject, so let me educate you a lil bit:

Data isn't treated like physical evidence.

Drugs and weapons are physical evidence.

US laws do not cover any protections of ephemeral (non-physical) evidence pertaining to crimes committed ex post facto: meaning law enforcement is not privy to any and all collection of said data if not in scope for a crime committed, unlike...PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

You can see drugs. You can hold drugs. Law enforcement can make a reasonable assumption that someone shooting a gun in public is breaking the law and seize that gun, because they are actually breaking the law (juris laws dependent) by firing the gun.

If suddenly our laws allowed the assumption that whatever exists on a phone for a random person in public contains something related to a crime, police would be able to stop anyone and everyone on the street everywhere and take their phone or data for simply thinking every person is suspicious. This is why the 4th amendment exists, and why police are enot allowed to do such things. His is why warrants are a thing.

Read up.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago

You didn't even read past that. It then says "or investigation"

I'm kinda done talking as you're not even reading what I post.

Good day!