Still, as Reddit is strong-arming its way across, maybe worth signaling to people there that the fediverse may be used without an account, so long as there's even one instance that implements logged-out view as the protocol allows it?

I don't have access to my account any longer, possibly VPN ban, though I never tried to recover it so I can only guess why mine is lost, else I'd post myself.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Honestly I've given up on encouraging people to do things to better themselves. We've had open source technology for a very long time. The Fediverse has been pretty mature for a good while now. Xitter and Reddit have been through many rounds of appalling enshittification, not to mention Meta.

RSS is as old as the internet but people overwhelmingly choose Apple News and other dumb shit.

Email is as old as the internet but people overwhelmingly choose corporate platforms like Gmail.

Podcasts are ancient but people overwhelmingly choose to use platforms like Spotify, and worse, YouTube.

People just overwhelmingly make bad decisions, and have been for decades so, yeah, I'm exhausted.

I used to ask people to switch and they would ask "why?" and I would be so appalled that they would even ask the question because, how could you not know any of the litany of reasons to get off this fucking platform?

Sometimes they ask and I explain and then the only thing that changes is that they think I'm a weirdo.

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Something has been lost over the past 15-20 years. It's like nobody has the mindset anymore of the world wide web era. Where's the curiosity. Where's the discovery. Where's the malleability to find something new to you and try it. Inertia has locked them into subservience.

The internet flipped upside down. It was new frontier for you to explore. Now you lay there as it spoon feeds you.

People have been quantified into units. So they can be packaged and sold as datasets. They're boxed into what the ad industry categorizes them as. This person is an Apple News user, reddit user, and Youtube watcher. That user is on Twitter and Facebook. Much more fine grained than just what platforms they use of course. They told the system what they like and the system built a reinforced box around them. And then charge them for an air tube for good measure.

We are far gone from the days where a user would be so excited to post a wall of text about using a thing that another user doesn't know about. These days the reaction is more likely to be,"Who are? Who sent you?!? What's your real motive???" Skepticism. Distrust. Paranoia.

Often these days, outright indifference. People know these platforms fuck with their minds. With public conscious. They mould the world we live in. People don't care. The world chose to be Cypher. They wanted to be plugged into the Matrix.

Though that's not really a good analogy because outside the system isn't a desolate landscape. The outside world is still normal.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

People know these platforms fuck with their minds...People don't care.

Exactly. The vast majority know how terrible they are, but continue to subject themselves to it anyway. Why? Lack of self-respect? Unwillingness to explore and learn new things? I don't get it.

The Fediverse has shown me that what these companies have isn't anything special, aside from the network. People don't go there for the software, they go there for the people. But they can't move the people to new/other software.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

people go where the content is. That's just the nature of the beast. Like I'm pissed at the reddit mods for kicking me off of reddit more because that's were 90% of the minecraft community lives, (most of the reason I used reddit in the first place) and less because they got the ass pains for me calling them out on their corporate bootlicking behavior.