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[–] minty@aussie.zone 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Unironically agree as long as its healthy to live in. I live in a freezing fucking house and its fine.

However, again, as long as its healthy to live in. No mold thank you very much

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

He creates a false dichotomy. The idea that we can’t have affordable homes and that them keep to standards is a myth.

[–] minty@aussie.zone 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I guess my thinking is my house was cheap af even for the time and its served us well. Couldn't live in there if you were really old tho, too cold.

Not sure how much it costs to get to standard, but I am just very anti 3 toilets, 5 bedrooms, tripple glazed, smart lighting mansions being the entry home (exageratting of course).

I suppose I want to see 2 bedrooms (or even 1), one toilet small houses being common place. A very humble house.

[–] arbilp3@aussie.zone 6 points 3 hours ago

Smaller homes is exactly what we need, for a mountain of reasons, AND they can be made well. Good insulation to keep out extreme temperatures, good overall design, all electric, solar powered homes would ultimately help reduce public health and other costs. Giving people on low-incomes sub-standard housing is false economy as well as heartless.

[–] shads@leminal.space 4 points 3 hours ago

The thing is we are going to be seeing far more climactic extremes, in part due to this exact sort of person. Building houses with standards is absolutely more expensive up front and usually heaps cheaper over the longer life of the house.

My in-laws house is built to a pretty damned high standard, compared to my father's. My old man is forever spending money on small repairs, his powerbills are higher (I mean my in-laws are currently net exporters so their powerbills are almost entirely usage charge free), and his property price is largely based on the size of his block, whoever buys it will just knock it down and throw 2-3 units on the land.

It's the Sam Vimes Boots Theory all over again, its expensive to be poor.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

What do you think "substandard" means? And how do you think this would turn out in practice?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 minutes ago

Like some US states where houses are sheathed in cardboard, then wrapped in plastic. Then they have chronic mold, wonder why.

[–] minty@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Actually. On an extra thought. My house is kinda hostile to my health at times lmao. Its sometimes hazardous o stay in my room (it has 3 big windows with no insulation) when its > 35 degrees). I have changed my mind lol

[–] minty@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Whatever my house is. It would be way way below modern standards. Still an absolute delight to live in.

I do get having standards thinking on it more, if I had any physical disabilties sensitive to temp I would have to move.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. It's often elderly people or people with health problems who live in low-income housing.

[–] arbilp3@aussie.zone 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And low-income sole parents with kids. What do you think this does to them? More days off work because of child or parental illness, doing homework in very cold or very hot rooms, psychological effects, etc, etc. Politicians from privileged backgrounds who make such thoughtless statements are a blight.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's not thoughtless. They want to perpetuate poverty.

[–] arbilp3@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

It certainly looks that way.