Asklemmy

55312 readers

478 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

Open-ended question
Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

Lemmyverse: community search
sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
!lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 7 years ago

MODERATORS

How is the far-right responding to forest fires in your countries? (mander.xyz)

submitted 6 days ago by KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

30 comments fedilink hide all child comments

I'm just curious how the far-right is framing these developments, and how it differs per country.

Are they mostly talking about the "pyromaniacs"?

Or about how governments failed to do organize the (supposedly normal) periodic low intensity fires to prevent the big ones?

Or are they simply not talking about it at all?

If you have any concrete links to local media, I would be very curious!

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] doctor0710@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hungary - they're blaming it on the hail prevention system. According to them that's the cause for the low rainfall.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You guys have a hail prevention system?

[–] doctor0710@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it's a silver-iodine based thing, it prevents ice from forming in too big chunks.

I'm originally from Serbia though, they have a bit more primitive system, they fire up some very loud "fireworks", the pressure waves are powerfull enough to pulverize the larger chunks into smaller ones.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a stupid thing to mess with? If only because you open up speculations like this?

[–] doctor0710@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, let's just give in to the far right conspiracy theory...

~80% of both countries' land is used for agriculture. Hail was the biggest cause of crop loss for decades, the systems in place are warranted. Also these are not the only countries to have hail prevention systems, almost all European countries have their own different or similar systems. Also these are not in use when there are no storm clouds or no hail is forecasted (we barely had any precipitation at all this year). The only thing that's fueling speculations like this is pure ignorance....

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Never heard of this practice. But it seems to be a thing yes.

Turns out it was Vonnegut again.

The scientific attempts to mitigate or suppress hailfalls began in the 1950s, a few years after Schaefer (1946) and Vonnegut (1947) discovered the means to increase the ice crystal concentration in clouds by using dry ice or silver iodide (AgI) particles, and consequently to interfere with the natural precipitation processes.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0169809515003774