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My god the F1 crowd is awful. There is no debate on rules or issues, there is only "I'm right and your a fucking idiot for disagreeing". I want to get more into GT3 as I've always preferred it in racing sims, but it's kind of hard to follow comparatively.
For sure I don’t think F1 is gonna change for the better anytime soon with the fan base. But yes there are definitely other options to watch. WEC is goated right now and WRC is as well too. The WRC needs some new regulation because it’s slowing becoming off road F1 in terms of cost. Super GT is always has a special place in my heart too.
Everyone is saying this fanbase bad or this fanbase bad it seems they have forgotten football exists and Liverpool
how do you enjoy this stuff knowing that the impacts of every gallon of gas guzzled for 'just funsies' is dooming our children's environment?
just curious.
Yes that is very important to me as well. If I’m honest I just turn my brain off while I watch it. I know that’s not the answer you are probably looking for but it’s a small enjoyment in my life with all the craziness and negativity in the world.
racing EV's would be more exciting. especially unlimited.
I fucking hate the culture that normalizes rushing headlong into our own destruction, not just idling along, but mashing the gas into the floorboards
Formula-E has been a thing for a few years, and this year notably included a mandate to drastically increase the reliance on the battery units over the ICEs for power in F1. In either case, it's not really there yet, but I'm looking forward to the day that it does get there.
Formula E had (I don't know if it's been rectified since) a pretty significant issue with the batteries just not being able to last for F1 race distances on several tracks. They haven't got the top speed and endurance at those speeds that the F1 hybrids deliver, and because it's a racing sport, you can't just make the battery larger to add capacity without a significant impact on your race pace, nor can they just pop into the pits and patiently wait for a rapid charge to finish topping off their batteries.
That aside, I can't imagine Formula E really manages to deal much better with the major source of pollution and emissions for F1, which is shipping a full track worth of cars, drivers and support crew around the world many times a year. Of course, in that regard, I don't know how many of the Formula E drivers are actual pulling in the sort of money to be owning and maintaining private jets for this purpose, and at least one of the F1 drivers has sold his off. I remember Lewis Hamilton used to get a lot of flack for telling people to go vegan to save the planet while using a private jet 20 odd times a year, and I guess he finally felt silly enough about that contradiction to sell it off.
Edited, realized my comment on F1's new power unit rules was poorly written and confusing at first.
ok you're right, bin it all. it's a silly waste of resources.
Nowhere did I suggest binning it, and I support their eventual transition into being able to leave even hybrids behind. You stated "racing EV’s would be more exciting" and I just pointed out some of the issues that currently prevent it from being more widely adopted and more popular with motorsport fans at large. Otherwise, I doubt you'll find many people to agree that a fully EV Indy 500 was comparable in impact of the event as it exists now if the vehicles could only do 2/3 of the distance with a car capable of less than half the power of the machines it's meant to replace. An F1 car outputs 1000hp, while a Formula E car can do a touch under 500hp. This isn't a knock on them, and I fully expect them to keep improving, but this is an edge case wear current EVs aren't there yet.
yeah, and I'm just suggesting, in an age of ecological collapse, perhaps it's a poor priority
I've not crunched the numbers myself but the actual racing probably produces a lot less pollution than the logistics of teams and fans travelling to each race, and given that there are only 20-odd races per year all the fans travelling around the world probably causes less overall pollution than something like football where there are loads of big matches every week.
Interestingly one of the purposes/benefits of f1 is (supposed to be) pioneering new technology. For instance, the fuel is (supposedly) now sustainability produced, and I think a lot of the hybrid engine tech developed for f1 then made its way to road cars. Of course most of the biggest sponsors are oil companies looking to throw away the electric tech now, so who knows what the fuck the future looks like...
meh. none of this is a benefit worthy of the 60 years of hyping up pollution for funsies.
bin it all.
it's not worth the pollution.
period. also, you can't just 'nasa' your way out of it, cute tho.
Technologies pioneered in F1 have made their way into our lives over the decades, not just in the cars we drive, but in fields as varied as pediatric surgery and air traffic control. Every car you've ever driven was more efficient due to something that was bleeding edge in F1 years earlier.
I'm not an expert so I couldn't say how but I would be amazed if their current work with hybrid drivetrains don't improve EVs.
Yeah, F1 burns a lot of gas, but calling it "just funsies" is short sighted. If you add up it's effects over the years it's a net positive and it's not even close.
bullshit, that's exactly what it is. stop acting like idiots racing in circles is some kind of science program for the benefit of the proletariat, that's absolute garbage - these teams are sponsored by some of the worst brands (WOO MARLBORO!) - to burn gas for ENTERTAINMENT.
shortsighted lol. net positive pfft.
what delusions