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[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml -5 points 7 months ago (57 children)

Both Democrats and Republicans are liberals

What?

From your link

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.

In what ways do the Republicans respect equality before the law? I can't accept this label. They are conservatives/fascists. Not liberal.

The Democrats are neoliberal/conservative. I'm more okay describing them as liberal because the voters tend to be, but the party itself is not.

If you arent distinguishing between ideology, party and individual then I don't think you fully understand capitalism.

Capitalism coopts ideology. Liberal voters vote for a Democrat, then capitalists bribe the Democrat to do something else.

What's ironic is that the objective fact of the genocide in Palestine is built on liberal thought.

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.

The genocide in Palestine is wrong because they cannot have a right as individuals, they do not have liberty, they have not had an election allowed to be held since 2008, they have no political equality, they have no right to private property and settlers can kick them out, they are not equal to Jews under the law.

Your criticisms of the Democrats don't seem to be that they're liberal, but that they're not liberal enough.

Any true liberal would support Palestine from your own source.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Liberals don't consider people outside their country as human

Also, liberalism doesn't consider people who don't own property as human

That should resolve the contradictions

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