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Kamala ran on having the same policies as Biden. What makes you think the next one won't?
Kamala? The candidate picked by Biden and no one else had the same views as Biden? Wow!
Yeah, Kamala, the candidate who had the entire DNC apparatus working all the tricks of the trade in order for her to get the nomination, that one. What makes you think the next candidate won't also be a ghoul?
Because no one could possibly be as poor a candidate as Kamala. You make it sound like a neoliberal conspiracy...what I remember was desperation and incompetence.
Once again. Your reasoning is why I am fully prepared to have Trump's entire family run the country for a couple decades, give Israel open reign to do whatever they want, and for a bunch of non-voters pretending to care about Palestinians continue to sabotage themselves.
70% of Democrats want to stop funding Israel. Trump fights Benjamin Netanyahu's wars for him. But they are exactly the same.
Newsome would be as bad as Kamala
He's the governor of California, so he does have real power. He also openely abandond his voters as soon as he was elected. He's a zionist. He did photo-ops while destroying people's homes.
Where's the evidence of this? All evidence points to Newsome gleefully operating the orphan-crushing machine, just like Biden and Obama did.
Kamala was DA and vice president, among a bunch of other stuff. Newsom is governor of California. What point is it you think youre making?
I can say with certainty more people would be hurt under newsom '28 than the current Trump regime, because Newsom would, at best, just keep this shit trucking, but people like you wouldnt care, since a democrat was in charge. Like how none of you gave a shit about Gaza or police violence or suppression of protesters or breaking strikes or [list continues] under Biden
Because I saw enough Newsome interviews to see how much of a terrible politicians he is with zero convictions and not being even able to hide that fact
There's plenty of high-ranking, influential, democrats that could be as influential as Kamala, why are you acting like Biden '20 and Kamala '24 was some fluke? And why are you singling out Netanyahu? Its not just these three people, its quite obviously the whole structure.
Which dems have sufficiently different positions on foreign affairs?
USian dems have always been zionist, and they were no less enthusiastic about this than the current USian administration.
What are these mythical dems that supposedly want to stop applying Pissrael?
I have no idea what your cute nicknames are referring to. Sufficiently different opinion? Literally everyone who didn't want to go to war for Benjamin Netanyahu...which is everyone but Trump. Or how about anyone not dumb enough to send their son in law to solve middle easy peace. Night and day difference to anyone paying attention.
Biden-Harris administration was very willing to go to that 'war' (i.e. the genocide). Last I checked, they were not Trump.
Also, why single out Netanyahu? Do you think that the genocide started with him, or that other parts of the Pissraeli government somehow don't support the genocide?
What are you talking about? What war? You just make shit up. That is why MAGA will be around for a while. Facts are irrelevant.
Not the original person you were talking to.
It was under Biden that the US supported Israel in ramping up to the current stage of genocide in Palestine and expansionism into Lebanon. It was also Kamala who called Iran the greatest threat to America when she was running last time. They very clearly were more than happy to support Benjamin, odds are they would simply have been more competent in how they went about it.
Project much?
You are completely changing definition of going to war. "Ramped up" is not going to war. One went to war, one did not. Kamala was a bad candidate, but only one person was stupid enough to start a new war.
Yes, to you and the other poster, facts are irrelevant. Y'all are exactly why MAGA will stay in power and Israel will continue to do whatever they want with the Palestinians. You can continue to feel smug about sitting out of the political system.
You don't think escalating from the status quo in Palestine pre biden to Gaza literally being flattened should count? Also the second half of your first paragraph is nonsense, we don't know what Kamala would have done in offic because she didn't get their however an educated guess based on everything she said points directly to war in Iran.
Your second paragraph is so incredibly US-cebtric it's amazing. I'm not American I don't engage with your political system because I don't live in the US nor am I a citizen.
Just like they did under Biden and would have under any Democrat.
What narrative? Gaza was flattened under Biden, Libya was destroyed under Obama. Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Vietnam, Korea and many more were all bi-partisan in your attacks on them.
All you are doing is dehumanising us outside the imperial core so you can feel superior sticking your fingers in your ears and voting for the more competent genocidiers because at least they do it with decorum. You are not even approaching fact, in fact you are so incredibly detached from reality you could likely find more fact in fiction novels.
The fact you try limit to only counting Palestine is clearly debatepervert nonsense, what of the thousand if not hundreds of thousands suffering in Libya after it was destroyed being turned from the most developed African nation into one of open air slave markets, and in Syria now headed by AlQaeda where massacres of minorities are common, and so on.
MAGA is not an abomination it is just America with it's mask off. Voting for Democrats or Republicans at their core they're all MAGA they just differ on competency and presentation.
You are disgusting. I can't wait for Americans to feel even a fraction of the horror they have reaped across the globe so we can return unto you what you have to us "Sorry best we can do is vote for the person who will do the same things but with decorum".
Perpetuating the problem by pointing out foreign policy has always been bi-partisan? You are a useful fool.
You keep saying 700,000 children but that's not what the statistics say is it? You just looked up USAID deaths and picked the biggest number before putting children next to it. Not a good look when trying to position yourself as the one "speaking facts".
Not to mind I suppose if Hitler ran some charities you'd be pro Hitler? The fact the us did some good for propaganda purposes is entirely outweighed by the fact that they DESTROYED MULTIPLE COUNTRIES millions of deaths can be directly traced back to US sanctions and the knock on effects of the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan etc.
You are no better than Goebbels.
Why do you keep minimising US atrocities to Palestine? Hundreds of thousands if not millions across Libya, Syria, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, much of Africa as a whole (as they lost Libya and the Western powers fund boko haram and Isis through the CFA franc) and more suffer and die every year.
The Nazis were quiet literally openly inspired by the US. The only thing that makes the Nazis special is that they did what the US and European colonial powers had been doing to us for generations to White people. They have always been the same when it comes to motivation and action the target is the only differentiator. Thank you for again confirming you don't see non white people as equal humans.
I think I'll leave this here. I don't think an obergruppenfuhrer such as yourself will be convinced to view us as equal humans through an online conversation. I'd wish you the best, but I don't. I hope you one day manage to educate yourself and stop being a white supremacist shitbag.
Literally what you're doing. 🤣
Don't enjoy your weekend.
Me when playing Fallout 3 where I kill everyone and do evil shit: That's okay I will give 10k water bottles to a very thirsty guy and now I have good karma
No? The world would actually instantly improve, it'd be a paradise in comparison even.
Sorry, I don't take things from other people. I would rather give :)
debatebro can't argue so time to end the "debate". Go back to reddit.
Wow, yellow perilism. Mask off for the racism. Also, yes the US literally funded and aided ISIS and wow guess what? The current leader of Syria is former ISIS and suddenly Syria is off the list of "states that sponsor terrorism" and Syria is now allied with "Israel". Funny how that works.
Ah, so you are ready to admit that you have been conducting a genocide, rather than a "mere" war.
The Biden-Harris administration literally did the war crime pier.
Also, that same government went to war with Yemen over this (and showed the world why you don't have healthcare), and prepared for war with Iran.
As well as the rest of that government, as they were preparing for just that.
We, or the people like you who defend these policies and argue that you should have the same people in power, just painted blue?
Oh? Care to tell us how you voting in Biden-Harris stopped the genocide? Ah, right, all they did was exacerbate it.
Why don't you look up how many people Biden and Obama deported, and sent to torture prisons, without trial. Biden increased childhood hunger. Biden killed millions of kids with bombs, drones, and policies. Remember when the pandemic was still raging, and he took away everyone's benefits, and didn't provide even close to the meager stimulus checks that Trump did? That killed a lot of people, who were forced back into unsafe work conditions.
Okay, what isn't a fact?
Did the Biden-Harris administration take deliberate action to support the genocide? Yes, including such things as the war crime pier, and the bombing of Yemen.
Did you claim that the Biden-Harris administration didn't take part in escalating the genocide? Also yes. You even claimed that things like the invasion of Yemen that that government engaged in didn't happen.
If you are sincerely asking this question, you haven't actually studied NATO's history.
You are effectively claiming that Pissrael didn't exist until 2025, that invasions of Libya, Syria, Yemen didn't happen, that the blue governments didn't take part in things like the invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
You mean the thing that is used to invade other countries like Iran?
And the source is what, exactly? And does that source account for the child deaths caused by the activities of USAID?
??? You yourself called the genocide a "war".
Here are your own words: