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IKEA moves to Thread (and away from Zigbee) (www.theverge.com)

submitted 1 year ago by deergon@lemmy.world to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man there are way too many IoT standards. What's the difference between these two? How do they each compare to Matter?

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thread is a wireless standard meant to sit next to Bluetooth and WiFi.

Matter is a home automation protocol can that be used over Thread or WiFi. Ideal Matter devices use Thread instead of WiFi because running a bunch of home devices like light bulbs or switches on your WiFi is a recipe for disaster.

Matter is important because it provides native compatibility among different platforms.

[–] VitulusAureus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of disaster specifically? I hear everyone discouraging from using WiFi for home devices, but never understood what the actual risks are.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let’s say your lightbulb(s) become comprised. A bad actor now has a toehold into your network.

Maybe they run a spam relay through the bulb. Maybe they attack your network by attacking the printer that hasn’t had a firmware update in years.

Point is, there’s someone with access to your network that isn’t you.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/1fjspoc/what_is_the_point_of_having_a_separate_devices/

[–] VitulusAureus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, thanks. But this can be easily resolved by:

Removing devices' access to WAN, which also vastly reduces the external actor's ability to compromise them in the first place.
Isolating devices from each other with internal firewall rules, allowing them to only interact with the hub host. Is this correct, or am I missing something?

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good luck explaining how to do any of this to my parents, for example. For someone with a technical background that's feasible, for someone with an it background it's even easy. For the other 90 or 95% of people who are actually supposed to buy and use these things, it isn't. They don't even know something like this can be done, let alone that it should be done.