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As someone who works in emergency services, I can assure you that it is worthwhile. I've commented on other threads how many of our 911 agencies allow and/or even encourage dispatchers to use OSM as a tool to facilitate geolocating a caller, providing directions to responders in the field, and improving situational awareness. And that all comes as a result of the high quality and rich data that's being contributed to OSM.
Then prove it with hard data.
Your “feelings“ do not equate to hard data.
Prove it with proof and evidence. show me statistics that prove what you claim.
Because after every statistical review over the last hundred years of reviews of statistical data, your claims do not bare out.
you want me to believe your claims? PROVE IT!
Edit: tantrums, tears, and downvotes are not proof, lol
I can't figure out if you are hating on OSM or AEDs, but either one seems like an odd hill to die on. Particularly since neither of them are 100 years old.
So you admit that you don’t have proof.
Downvote me all you like, but I’m still right
Proof of what? I didn't make any claims, I just stated that I can't figure out if you are being mad about AEDs, OSM, or something else.
Ok, well, I guess I did claim that neither OSM or AEDs are 100 years old. Both of which are easy to verify as the computer necessary for OSM didn't exist in 1926, and the first AED wasn't invented until the late 1970's according to Wikipedia.
Past that, what the fuck are you talking about?
Can you link one of many statistical reviews that you are mentioning?
Right, like I have to prove common sense?
Lmao
… you literally claimed there’s hundreds of years of statistical proof.
Is it proof or is it common sense?
You’re a terrible troll, can’t even write a sensical comment.
Fallacy fallacy.
When logic escapes you, you have no one to blame but yourself
I've got a phone app (PulsePoint Respond) that's hooked in with local computer-aided dispatch systems so I'll get alerts for nearby emergencies. They also have one that shows AEDs and other resources (e.g. narcan kits) from these registries. I've been the first trained person to arrive a few times and, though one was super obviously dead, it's been a useful tool for getting the process started while EMS was on the way.
Congratulations to the one person on earth to whom this data is immediately useful. Really, all honors to you and all of your life-saving efforts. Cheers!
But to literally every other person on the planet (minus one or two), my previous statement stands. A single statistical anomaly does not invalidate what I said.
It's a public app, anyone can install it. It does rely on local agencies being willing and able to connect it to their systems but that's not a hard sell since the decision-makers tend to be receptive to the idea that more/faster help is better. https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/15/1/5 gets into some of the stats on incidents where it's been activated if you're interested.
Aaaaaand your tantrums and tears still are not proof
Holy shit dude, who hurt you?
What?
STFU, you're a moronic twit. No proof needed.
Your name-calling tantrum isn’t very convincing
I think your kindergarten class is getting called back from recess
I told you to STFU. I guess you can't read. No surprise.
Yes, and that was very cute ❤️
But knowing where an AED is when you need one is already useful, no? Why are you angry?
People do do meaningful things with it. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean anything.
Go ahead and do meaningful things with it.
And in 20 years, when you figure out something meaningful with that data, you let us all know. Go on and publish that study. 👍
👋 change the world 👋
You’re a terrible troll.
So sorry to disappoint you, lol
ok imma do meaningful things such as saving lives
Hey man, I was saved by ER with aed because I live in Europe. In the US it wouldn't have been in time.
So you do you, I can only recommend to know where they are.
On the other hand, you won't care anymore if it's too late.
Also: I am/was healthy, had nothing wrong with the heart and am in good condition, so it might as well be anyone.
Edit: why was the post we answered to mod deleted? I mean it's not popular and kind of risky take but aren't we here to discuss controversial opinions?
Dutch people have a ~23% chance of surviving cardiac arrest (out of hospital), thanks in part to well-documented AED coverage, thanks in part to systems like this. The rest the western world sits around 10%.
Good data like this is used for emergency services and civil emergency volunteers.