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The most common argument against electric cars is that once you factor in battery manufacturing and lithium mining, they aren't actually cleaner. MIT tested that directly, and the answer is no longer ambiguous.
Researchers Marco Miotti and Jessika Trancik built a lifecycle model covering thousands of US zip codes, drilling down to individual driver behavior rather than comparing broad regions. They accounted for battery and vehicle manufacturing, fuel extraction and refining, regional electricity mix, local meteorological data, traffic density, trip length and duration, acceleration patterns, gas and electricity prices, and state fees. The study appears in Environmental Research Letters.
The concession first: building a battery is dirtier than building a comparable gas car, and an EV starts life with a larger manufacturing footprint. MIT states that plainly rather than working around it.
The findings: in most US locations, a battery electric vehicle reduces lifetime greenhouse gas emissions by 40 to 60 percent compared to a similar gas vehicle, with larger reductions in urban areas. On cold weather, MIT found that in a climate like North Dakota, efficiency can drop as much as 50 percent on a particularly frigid night, but the effect on annual emissions benefits is minimal. Miotti's own conclusion was that even in the most unfavorable conditions, EVs still reduce emissions substantially.
On cost, EVs are competitive with comparable combustion vehicles in lifetime ownership cost across most of the country, even without clean vehicle tax credits. Where electricity is relatively affordable, battery electrics tend to cost less outright. The study also found that individual driving behavior matters roughly as much as regional electricity mix, with the biggest reductions going to people who drive more, drive larger vehicles, and spend more time in traffic.
MIT also updated their public tool at carboncounter.com, where you can compare lifecycle emissions and ownership costs for nearly any car on the market.
None of this means you have to like electric cars. Dislike the steering feel. Dislike the brake feel. Want a manual. Those are real objections. The emissions one is finished.
Car news the way Doug DeMuro, Jason Cammisa and Chris Harris cover cars, every day
citation requested for this because.... I don't believe anyone would 'cast' - as in metal casting - framework around something like the battery pack, even the assholes at tesla.
it may be engineered inconveniently but even they have to replace cells in packs sometimes. please, provide some examples of this in production.
It's called a structural battery pack.
Same asshole concept as gluing batteries into phones. Impossible to replace a battery, and in accidents, the forces transmit right into the battery. TSLA sells it to it's stans as weight saving and innovation, and we all know those idiots believe anything.
https://www.basenor.com/blogs/news/teslas-structural-battery-pack-the-floor-is-the-battery?srsltid=AfmBOoouT_aHAjGSwa2_DLnuwZTnVjf-t6qJ_XoCA_Xat176XpXT7rpD
haha cute, but that is NOT the same thing as casting the body framework around the battery.
I think the idea is they use the battery packs as part of the frame: https://www.tesla-mag.com/en/revolutionizing-electric-vehicles-teslas-unconventional-battery-architecture/ but given that this patent is from 2024 I'm not sure if they're actually building cars like this yet. Maybe the truck.
"Tesla’s patent describes a unit where vertically arranged cells are bonded together with structural adhesive, creating an ultra-rigid honeycomb that can endure road forces comparable to traditional vehicular frames." So basically it sounds like they're dousing 18650 batteries in construction adhesive, building a metal box around that, and then taking those metal boxes and welding them together into the floor of their car frames. I would do more research if I cared, but I don't. Fuck Tesla!
yeah, and that sucks... but they're not casting metal around the assembly like the person I'm replying to asserts.
https://www.basenor.com/blogs/news/teslas-structural-battery-pack-the-floor-is-the-battery?srsltid=AfmBOoouT_aHAjGSwa2_DLnuwZTnVjf-t6qJ_XoCA_Xat176XpXT7rpD
Cybertrucks and Model Ys. Elon turned cars into disposable iPhones.