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[–] gogonan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah fuck those stupid poors who had no financial safety net nor a good enough education to pursue traditional employment, who wanted the option to secure a good mortgage or steady healthcare

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Hey, I won't stop you if you want to take the position that poverty turns the decision to carry water for an empire built on coercion, colonization, and violence into a virtuous one. Knock yourself out.

[–] gogonan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We all participate in unethical business, however far removed our choices may seem from it. I’m not part of the military, don’t endorse it, and am angry about how my taxes are spent on it. It’s our government and military leadership that causes these problems and should be derided though. A lot of these sailors probably joined the military fresh out of high school with nothing better out there for them and aren’t educated enough to realize they’re not doing anything good. They’re kids though, but ride your moral high ground. I’m sure you’ve never worked for a scummy corporation or consumed slave labor goods.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Cool. I guess all those ICE agents are also just fundamentally decent people, deprived of education and economic opportunity. They just don't know any better. I guess because we all purchase goods from retail locations we're just as bad.

People like you are the reason your country is where it is. Get yourself some real values.

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why are you pretending that they are poor, or that that is somehow a good excuse?

[–] gogonan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I just think willfully ignoring the fact that there’s systemic pressure that coerces the lower class into the military and then saying they deserve to be starved and sent off to their deaths in pointless war is a fucking wildly dickish perspective. Like you assume they chose to be in the military as one of many lucrative options and not as the only prospective chance to better themselves (however false the illusion is)

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Poverty draft is a myth. The USian soldiers are almost all well-off.
All of them voluntarily sign up for the most vile activity one can do.

Also, poverty and especially the often pointed-out desire to get higher education are not good exists to inflict poverty, torture and death upon non-white foreigners.

Also, do you think that the countries they invade have a moral right to defend themselves and kill these monsters, or do you side with the invaders and claim that these people should live?