It's really interesting how the way ATproto is both more and less as every service must follow a strict format to interact with others using the same format.

Like, ATproto has more variety than the fediverse, but the way they interact is a bit more strict, which means that a post from a lemmy analogue wouldn't show up on bluesky, but it also means that each platform often seems more polished.

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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Looking at the specs, it's a promising concept, but its considerably less mature than ActivityPub. It's also struggling with some of the same challenges:

What is Missing?

Non-Public Data: mechanisms for personal and group data sharing are planned, and should support a wide variety of application functionality. These will be large additions to the protocol framework. We recommend against simply "bolting on" encryption or private content using the existing protocol primitives.

Protocol Governance and Formal Standards Process: once the basic protocol framework has been shown to work between multiple interoperating organizations, the plan is to bring the protocol specifications to an existing standards body (like the IETF) for revision and independent review.

The first point is one the Fediverse struggles with (like the fact DMs aren't private). The second is where ATProto falls behind ActivityPub - right now Bluesky is the only significant org running the protocol, and as such they're still establishing standards.

[–] markjamestwn1301@scribe.disroot.org 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe the Fediverse should just be for social media, and leave DMs to like, XMPP or something? I dunno, just a thought. Feel like we're reinventing the wheel here.

[–] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 2 days ago

xmpp can do it all, at this point we should just use it evrywhere

[–] bretton.dev@coves.social 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Note private data is now on alpha, it released last week.

[–] strop@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Encrypted DMs?

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To your point about significant platforms, there are other significant platforms (by fediverse standards) like pckt, so it is not as bad as it used to be, bsky is just so large it makes them all look small in comparison. As for standards because of the way lexicons work platforms using standard.site, for instance, have their own thing going on that bsky can't change.