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[–] Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

My 2015 vehicle does it that way (a/c on for both), so it's not exactly a recent change in design philosophy...

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -2 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I said 90's through 2000's, I said nothing about 2010's or beyond.

I do not have much of any experience in working on anything past 2005.

Anything past 2014 is what I call new generation enshittified, as that's around the year they basically started tracking everyone, refusing to offer printed service manuals (Hayne's/Chilton), stop offering parts and requiring 'owners' to take the vehicle back to the dealership for repair.

I'm all about the right to repair. Your 2015 is a new generation enshittified thing, sorry.

[–] Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So why are you discounting what people who do use modern cars are saying as incorrect if you don't know much about it? I'd wager most people probably aren't driving 25-35 year old vehicles anyway so at best you're just stating outdated and irrelevant knowledge.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Knowledge is never irrelevant if you're still driving around a 30+ year vehicle. Knowledge is relevant across all years, here's reference from 1960-2025 year range vehicles. I'm not fucking retarded...

https://lemon-manuals.la/

What I do know, first hand experience, is if the air conditioner goes out before the heater core heats up, well you got about 15 seconds to roll the windows down for airflow to keep the windshield from fogging up.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

In my old '90s car, heat only just made the fog worse. You had to have AC on too. Though it did trust you to know that and turn it on yourself.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

And this is the proper way.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

My 04 turns on the AC with the defrost, so did the 01 I used to drive, both base-level economy boxes so actually wait what the hell have you been driving?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do people understand the difference between FROST vs FOG?

  • Frost happens in the cold, best mitigated with gentle heat.
  • Fog happens in the humid heat, best mitigated with air condition cool dry air.

FROST != FOG

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Defrost handles both, dude, with the AC/heat two-punch pointed directly at the windshield. The heat raises the temperature of the glass so that water won't condense there, and the AC reduces the water content in the air overall.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

None of that stuff works when you inherited a truck that's missing the blower motor, entire passenger side dashboard, and all relevant passenger side ventilation ducts.

Yes it's a shitbox, but otherwise runs great. Just no luxuries, no air conditioning, due to no blower motor or half the ventilation system. Also the heat only works while driving, also because no blower motor.

At least it's otherwise reliable, plus also has manual roll down/up windows.