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We need a list of products we can buy without worrying about telemetry or advertising. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 14 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) by gif8287@lemmy.ml to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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It is so difficult to find modern electronics without telemetry and ads. Smartphones, laptops, TVs, home routers, security cameras, cars, game consoles, e-readers, projectors, 3D printers, fitness trackers, speakers, and even some printers. Why can’t customers be free from this data collection and advertising? It’s not that we don’t care about it. There simply aren’t many alternatives, and the few that do exist are either more expensive or offer fewer features. Seriously, we need a list of products we can buy and use directly without worrying about telemetry or advertising.

The following list is updated at https://lemmy.ml/post/52706206. Please note that this list may contain errors.

Laptop: Framework Laptop, System76, MNT
Anything else that doesn’t come with ads or telemetry built in?

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[–] cauthon117@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Laptops: Tuxedo

Phone: Volla Phone

[–] TheBlackFang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Could someone elaborate how Volla Phone compares to Jolla phone? I honestly thought at first this was a typo but both actually exist 😅

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Jolla phone runs Sailfish OS (partially closed source, but Linux-based) while the Volla phones can either run Android or Ubuntu Touch (more open-source). They have very different aesthetics and target different prices too (the former is cheaper and has a plastic fantastic build, while the latter are glass slabs)

Personally, I'm rooting for postmarketOS, since it's compatible with lots of devices. has the ability to install Flatpaks due to using a mainline (or at least closer to it) kernel over Ubuntu Touch and SailfishOS using the Android kernel (or at least parts of it I think, "proprietary blobs"), and recently the Fairphone 6 has been getting good pmOS development (super exciting! Even fingerprint has been made to work!)

I am moving to Piefed at scallisto@retrofed.com (https://retrofed.com/u/scallisto)