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[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Footprint because larger cars need more parking space,

That only matters if you actually have differently-sized parking spaces, like Japan does for its kei cars. Otherwise, even the smallest hatchback takes up exactly the same one whole space as a big SUV.

That's part of why this community is "fuck [all] cars," not "fuck big trucks."

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That assumes uniform marked parking spots. A lot of cities make heavy use of roadside parking where your car takes up as much space as it's long plus what's needed to be able to pull out. With roadside parking there's a big difference between a 3 meter ultracompact and a 5 meter SUV. Likewise, wider cars might take up space on the road and/or the sidewalk.

Even with marked parking spots long cars may exceed the length of a parking spot that was perfectly adequate when it was designed. I have something like that near me. There are parking spots perpendicular to a road and long cars routinely obstruct the sidewalk because otherwise they'd be obstructing the road.

I'm all in favor of having way fewer cars around in general but I also want the cars that are there to coexist better with everyone else.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No, it also matters for some admittedly unfortunate street layouts. E.g. here in Oslo we've had some one-way streets with parking on both sides, where we've had to remove parking on one side to allow buses and emergency services continued access in the age of SUVs.

Anything that has some sort of geometric constraint gets worse with big cars, and having an extra disincentive on huge cars is good.

edit: Car size creep will also eventually find its way into parking requirements, and parking norms, terrible as they are, require a certain amount of parking spots, not area dedicated to parking, which will make construction even more expensive.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Most parking garages do have compact car spaces, but otherwise street parking and parking lots are standard sizes.

Although for areas with open street parking (no metered spaces) the smaller cars allow more people to park