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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I support this, but I'm curious to know how he defines SUV. I drive a sub compact SUV (Subaru Crosstrek) because it's the closest I could get to a station wagon; they literally do not sell station wagons on the American market anymore.

The only reason I bought a car in the first place was because my wife and I decided to have a kid and we needed a vehicle with some cargo room. We bought the smallest, most fuel efficient option in the market, so I'd be annoyed if I gpt tolled the same as the jack-ass driving a Ford F-150.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

People buy bigger cars simply for the tax deduction for their business. My wife has no real need to drive a 6,000 gross weight vehicle but the government awards you with accelerated depreciation for only vehicles over that weight

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Simple enough: Index it by weight.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, they mention weight being a possible etermining factor in the video, and if it's done on a scale, I'm happy to pay a little more than a sedan. I'm gonna be annoyed if there's a flat cutoff for weight and I'm paying as much as some truck that takes up two parking spaces.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

oooo, don't say that too loud elsewhere or you'll have angry people claiming that the Outback is still a wagon, despite not having been one for over a decade now.

I also had this trouble replacing my third gen Outback. I went with a 2012 Elantra Touring, which has very similar cargo capacity (but lower towing capacity). but it's hard to come by 14 year old cars that aren't rust buckets.

I can still get a newer BMW, Volvo, or VW wagon, but they're outside of my budget and/or offensive/dangerous (distracting tech, LED headlights, etc). because fuck people who just want a Toyota Matrix, I guess. the VWs were probably the closest to my low budget in the used market

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, there are still technically some wagons on the market, but they're $75K luxury vehicles. It's weird, because I only see people with that kind of money driving sports cars or luxury SUVs, but I guess someone is buying them.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Tunnels types love their big black throbbing Suburbans.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Fuck those things. If you really need to seat 7 people, suck it up and buy a minivan.