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Looking to move from Caddy (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 week ago by confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Recently it's come to my attention that Caddy has an AI sponsor so I have been looking at moving away from Caddy.

I'm currently looking for another reverse proxy to use in place of Caddy. For TLS I am looking into using CertBot and it appears there's a module (https://github.com/desec-io/certbot-dns-desec) I can use that works for https://desec.io/ to handle my certs.

I have two questions, the first is about CertBot. Since Caddy is handling my certs automatically, how often would I want to renew my certs? Desec.io has this command to obtain a cert:

certbot certonly \
     --authenticator dns-desec \
     --dns-desec-credentials /etc/letsencrypt/secrets/$DOMAIN.ini \
     -d "$DOMAIN" \
     -d "*.$DOMAIN"

Would I be required to run the same command periodically to renew my cert?

My second question is a bit more open ended. I am looking to hear any suggestions or experiences about different reverse proxies that are preferably free of AI. There is a list here with some suggested alternatives: https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#web-servers

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[–] diecknet@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

~~I used traefik in the past, but moved to Caddy a while ago. In traefik I had to restart the service to apply the renewed certificate, which I found annoying. Caddy on the other hand just works~~ <- Edit: might be wrong

Anyway, are you using anything by the Linux Foundation?

[–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

I use Alpine Linux so yeah, I am using something by Linux

It's not ideal but I don't have the time to find alternatives for everything all at once, just one thing at a time which is the pace I am going. I'll deal with it when the time comes but it's in the back of my mind

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Whaaat?
I have auto renewing certs on my traefik instance and never had to renew my config except if I modified the config.yml...

[–] diecknet@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 days ago

Hm... Maybe then I'm confusing it with the cert renewal in Home Assistant.

[–] q7mJI7tk1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not about certs, but I found the opposite moving from Caddy to Traefik: in amending the caddyfile, I had to restart the Caddy service which would kill any open connections that were being used. In Traefik, it's dynamic, so can update the services without having to restart Traefik itself.

My main move to Traefik was due to file transfers for reverse proxy services like File Browser slowing down after a period of time, whereas in Traefik, they stayed at a constant speed.

I now run Traefik as part of Pangolin, so most config is set by that.

[–] stratself@lemdro.id 1 points 6 days ago

You can use caddy reload -c /path/to/Caddyfile to reload the config midway through