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If you agree with the points, then how is the ban shortsighted? It's not like the ban can't be revisited in the future.
While you do host a repo, pmOS device packages can't depend on imsd/fingerprintd/etc. since they're not in pmOS's main repo, so it adds extra steps for the end-user. I'm unsure if pmbootstrap supports building images with external APKs either, and if not, it would have to be done post-install.
There is another problem that I haven't mentioned, and that is since your packages already exist, that demotivates other people from working on LLM-free code that performs the same task, even if it doesn't eliminate it entirely.
If you do not fully understand the code you're working on in a deep, architectural sense, is that something you are willing to improve upon over time to the point where you will no longer need to use LLMs to code?
I await your post about it, as I'm curious about your viewpoint, especially going more in-depth.
Why i believe a hard ban is shortsighted is that it prevents real features like mine from being upstreamed.
I agree its inconvenient that they are on my own repo, but either i rewrite it fully manually which i might do someday but i really don't have the time for now or pmos changes their rules.
Willing? absolutely, but as i will say in my post, understanding a single subsystem of the kernel at a deep level is going to take a very long time, and i am working across all of them, one thing i understand on a deep architectural level is graphics programming, it has taken around i believe 5 years of making my own engine to truly understand it an expert level and even them im sure there is plenty of vulkan stuff i still don't know.
Truly understanding the kernel at a expert level will take an equal amount of time.
I have taken the decision that having an fully working capable linux phone with AI now is better then one done manually over 5 years.