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    [โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
    [โ€“] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)
    [โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    ok sure. but FYI, venv is basically the same thing if it's python based.

    [โ€“] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Yeah, venvs are the answer to โ€œwhy is that folder 8gb?โ€

    Containers are the answer to โ€œwhy is my hard drive completely fullโ€

    [โ€“] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

    Yeah, venvs are the answer to โ€œwhy is that folder 8gb?โ€

    Containers are the answer to โ€œwhy is my hard drive completely fullโ€

    They are both the answer to "why is my project not working here where it's working there" and "why do I need 17 copies of libc in their own little soft jails?"

    [โ€“] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Containers are the answer to โ€œwhy is my hard drive completely fullโ€

    Hold up, are people just out there not using Alpine for a container base image?

    [โ€“] neketos851@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    meh, someone probably forgot to nuke old images

    [โ€“] afk_strats@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

    Thank you for mentioning this! In thought I was the worlds only moron who filled 1tb with stale docker images.

    And that kids, is when I learned about prune - a

    [โ€“] DanWolfstone@leminal.space 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    What's the alpine advantage here?

    [โ€“] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    It's pruned down to a very small size. Occupies only a couple mb on disk. By default leaves out a bunch of features that are unnecessary for a container base image.

    Huh! Good to know, ty

    [โ€“] esc@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    You can get weird problems due to musl when trying to use alpine with software that wasn't expecting it, what else would you want?

    [โ€“] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    You could then theoretically just use something as Void Linux with GlibC, or Gentoo with GlibC, or something like that. Even a minimal Arch Linux image.

    [โ€“] esc@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Nothing theoretical about this, I've just stopped making images with alpine, 200MB of storage won't change anything (can be optimized really) and a lot less weird problems.

    [โ€“] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    It will change everything if you don't have a big (in capacity, not in physical size, lol) disk. Even worse with the current crisis on hardware prices.

    [โ€“] esc@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Not really, per gigabyte price is still very low for both ssds and hdds, and container images are layered, so if you make the containerfiles correctly additional size is minimal and comes to depencies and application itself.

    [โ€“] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Say this to, i.e., any Latin American, or Indian, or Southeast-Asian person, and they'll kill you lmao.

    Actually, I'm Venezuelan, so I'm Latin American; so, sorry, loads his imaginary gun, it's nothing personal, just life's law... Pew pew!

    Most of them use bigger images as Debian or even Ubuntu. Eww

    [โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Containers are the answer to โ€œwhy is my hard drive completely fullโ€

    What morons!

    *Hides 100gb of VM images in /var/lib/libvirt/images/ on his 230gb SSD*

    [โ€“] minfapper@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

    Aw man, I love Lemmy. There's so many dumb nerds that are the exact same as me!

    [โ€“] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Thatโ€™s fine because those vms are configured by and run on nix.

    [โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

    Nope. They are configured on Debian and run on arch btw

    [โ€“] x0x7@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    Docker took off because Ubuntu can't run current software. Now you need multiple copies of an up to date Linux visualized just to keep it interacting with old software on a base system we insist we need.

    If all your docker images prove that an up to date Linux can run, then why not just make the main system up to date and you won't need docker as much.