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I just finished Shogun. Pretty good, don't know why is not more known
I think it's pretty well known, but it's not super popular due to requiring people to read dialogue instead of multitasking while listening to the 5th rehash of a basic plot point.
Pretty great show :D
Is it not?? Based on famous book, was already a show, won a bunch of awards, is getting a sequel. Anyway, I liked it too! no clue what they'll do for s02 though since the book story already ended
I've been meaning to check this out for a while, but the wife isn't the biggest subtitle fan so I don't know if I could get her into this one.
Does season 1 end where the old series ends? I've been curious after hearing it was getting more seasons.
No idea how the og series end and don't want to spoil S01 ending here.
About the subtitles, it is extremely important to see it subbed. The way Mariko translate the words between the Japanese and the English guy is really important to the development of the plot and the characters. It would be interesting to have a version of the show more centered on the English guy without any subtitles until he starts learning Japanese and have the experience of not understanding what is happening around him until he starts understanding too
This is how the 1980 miniseries did it! 😆
The viewer is supposed to go through the same progression as Blackthorne, being at the mercy of translation and body language/actions until he learns Japanese. There is some narration and you get subs as he learns the language.
From some quick reading, Blackthorne is not as much the main POV in the new series, but he is in the original.
It's on archive.org if you want to watch it.
Being old and shit I was completely sure that everyone just speak English and the audience had to understand that they actually speak Japanese.
Well, I guess I'm watching that version too.
It's been a few years since I watched it, so I had to look it up to check for sure on the language, and it's funny as so many threads show up on movie forums asking where the heck all the subs are at, and everyone else responds "yooooo, that's the whole point!"
It sounds both series cover the same content, but from fairly different POVs, so you should still get a unique experience from it even though you have major spoilers from having seen the new one. I hope you enjoy it!
Ok, I just finished the 80's and holy shit. The new one is waaaa better than the original lmao. The only thing I think the original is better is in the Spanish pilot character. And know I need to read the novel to compare with each
Aww, well I hope it at least wasn't a total waste of your time.
It was good. It was an interesting read to compare both and see how they decided to show each and the difference on characterization. Specially Blackthorn that are basically two pretty different characters on each one. The 80's one is more happy and interested on learning about japanese culture, whole the new one feel more grounded and just trying to survive another day to get the shit out of Japan. My wife felt that the 80's version explained better the background political conflict, because of the narrator and the more explicit translation. While the new version was more show don't tell and some of the motivations on the conflict could be lost if you don't pay attention.
Oh, good.
I still haven't gotten to check out the new series, but it definitely looks like it should be pretty awesome.