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[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I like the Web.

I don't like all of the websites out there and avoid using some, but I think that that was always going to be the case.

I guess that maybe it's a little surprising that there was the degree of consolidation that there was among the broader population into use of some specific websites. But...well, network effect applies to social media, so you'd expect at least some natural tendency in that direction.

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I guess that the degree of shift to social media as a whole is surprising to me. Like, most really important websites are social media websites. But, well, I'd always used social media myself, even prior to the term being coined, so the idea that others might want to use it doesn't seem that strange. BBSes, Usenet. I wasn't a user of The WELL, but there's another influential forum.

And a shift to Web-based social media was predicted. Those of us who were around probably remember use of the term "Web 2.0":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0

Web 2.0 (also known as participative, participatory,[1] web and social web)[2] refers to websites that emphasize user-generated content, ease of use, participatory culture, and interoperability (i.e., compatibility with other products, systems, and devices) for end users.

The term was coined by Darcy DiNucci in 1999[3] and later popularized by Tim O'Reilly and Dale Dougherty at the first Web 2.0 Conference in 2004.[4][5][6] Although the term mimics the numbering of software versions, it does not denote a formal change in the nature of the World Wide Web;[7] the term merely describes a general change that occurred during this period as interactive websites proliferated and came to overshadow the older, more static websites of the original Web.[2]

A Web 2.0 website allows users to interact and collaborate through social media dialogue as creators of user-generated content in a virtual community. This contrasts the first generation of Web 1.0-era websites where people were limited to passively viewing content. Examples of Web 2.0 features include social networking sites or social media sites (e.g., Facebook), blogs, wikis, folksonomies ("tagging" keywords on websites and links), video sharing sites (e.g., YouTube), image sharing sites (e.g., Flickr), hosted services, Web applications ("apps"), collaborative consumption platforms, and mashup applications.

Whether Web 2.0 is substantially different from prior Web technologies has been challenged by World Wide Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, who describes the term as jargon.[8] His original vision of the Web was "a collaborative medium, a place where we [could] all meet and read and write".[9][10] On the other hand, the term Semantic Web (sometimes referred to as Web 3.0)[11] was coined by Berners-Lee to refer to a web of content where the meaning can be processed by machines.[12]

By Berners-Lee's statement there, he always expected the Web to have a social aspect.