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[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Nope, never going to use this now. I don't trust Meta to walk a dog, certainly not with a core os component.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But why not? What is the fear here? It's not like Meta has any control if you install or enable the feature.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Do you not know what that company does?

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

I know the company. But what is the fear about CRAM? What do you think Facebook / Meta will do to harm you, if you use CRAM? I ask this question honestly, as someone who hates Facebook and does not use any of their services, and never visit their pages. But I use ZStandard developed by Facebook. And I do not see any problem in doing so.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

If you can audit the code and it's clean and you built it yourself then probably nothing would happen. I don't trust them not to add something to access the memory though and don't have the time to audit code. Theyre not trustworthy enough to give the benefit of the doubt.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 minutes ago

I do not install anything from Facebook. Now talking about ZStandard as en example: Those libraries are part of the tools I use, such as the file compression tools. And even MAME emulator supports this and other applications, to have some fast decompression without long wait times. I even use it for my backups. I don't know how Facebook could do something in such cases. And for CRAM, this would be integrated into the Kernel with same standards as Linux.

I would understand the concerns if we speak about downloading and installing from Facebook directly. But that is not the case here.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If it is good and open, engineering is engineering. Good engineering came out of Meta before, that all of us use daily, like the zstd compression algorithm.

Save the moral outrage for all the other shady shit Meta imposes on humanity, god knows there is a intercontinental cargo ship load of it to choose from.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 6 points 2 hours ago

If you genuinely realise (and care) that meta is shady, there is no merit in supporting the company.

Moral outrage is something that people with decent morality have. Apathy is something that zombies have.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I got bad news for you if you use the modern web

[–] db2@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Name a few things, I'm curious.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Ever heard of a tiny little thing called React? GraphQL and relay? Presto? Folly? Zstd? Hack? RocksDB? Btrfs?

PyTorch is crazy big in ML/AI and has been for a while now.

And specifically in Linux: https://engineering.fb.com/2015/10/05/open-source/improving-the-linux-kernel-with-upstream-contributions/

And that's not even mentioning things that aren't just their tech, like open compute and funding foss and the Linux foundations, crap ton of open source projects, testing, bug fixes, and miscellaneous contributions.... Let alone all the tech that tries to compete with their tech; all the alternatives to react et al that are 'next gen'

Like it or not, the facebooks and googles of the world have contributed significantly to things you probably interact with every day.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Heard of btrfs, don't use it. Nor the rest.

0 out of 10.

As to the Linux kernel at this point everyone has contributed something. That would be like being mad at air for having been processed by Zuckerbergs human form cooling unit.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Zstd / ZStandard is pretty good.

[–] VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Now you're just not arguing in good faith here. You asked for contributions, there they are. I use Btrfs and it's great. (There's lots of actually valid reasons to hate meta, let's focus on those)

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

The criteria was "that all of us use daily" not "that you've heard of". Scroll up, it's right there.

You use btrfs, I don't, therefore the "all of us use" qualification fails, let alone "daily".

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A few notable ones?

https://engineering.fb.com/2018/10/30/open-source/linux/

Btrfs

https://itsfoss.com/news/react-foundation-launch/

React

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/meta-spins-off-pytorch-foundation-to-make-ai-framework-vendor-neutral/

PyTorch (if you're into the AI thing)

I suspect, without evidence, that you'd probably find some Meta engineers contributing to the Linux kernel to some degree, so you may have to rip that out of your system.

[–] db2@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Impressive, building your own kernel without Btrfs. I admit, you're better than me.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago
CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=n

Wow that was almost too difficult. 🙄

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't get this comment. You asked for examples, and they gave you.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

I asked for examples that I use. I haven't seen one yet.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 26 minutes ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Facebook_software is comprehensive as far as I know. Even if you don't use React, a lot of developers use it and control the web. So you might wander around the web that is written with React. But its no longer part of Facebook / Meta, so I don't know if it still counts.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Meta has funded all sorts of open source infrastructure, for a long time. If you want to avoid their funded contributions… TBH, I wouldn’t even know where to begin.