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I have been using Linux for over 8 months now, and my primary distribution of choice was Debian.

Debian recently conducted a community vote on allowing AI contributions, and it ended up allowing responsible AI contributions.

What is this responsible? How can AI commits be responsible? There are thousands of reasons to not use AI, and the primary reason is AI is a thief.

How did you react to Debian's decision? Did you switch distros? Which one was your option, and why?

Also, when the Linux kernel itself allows AI commits, is there any practicality in a Linux distribution strictly limiting or restricting AI commits?

I have no serious usability issue with Debian now but am concerned about the use of AI even in my Linux distribution. Should I keep going with Debian or consider any other distribution, as I only have 8+ months of experience as a daily Linux user? I tried almost all Linux distros and am comfortable with everything except Void Linux and highly complex ones like Gentoo.

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Most of it comes down to personally mitigating the damages:

  • start with ElementaryOS and Pantheon/Gnome, then decide which path you want to follow
  • if you're hardcore, go for NetBSD or MirBSD or 9front/Plan9 instead of Linux
  • on the Linux side: ElementaryOS, Gentoo, Chimera Linux, AerynOS, and Nura/PostmarketOS all have strong LLM policies
    • along those lines: Gnome and Cosmic haven't gone soft on AI the way KDE has
  • Starlight Network No-AI List is one jumping off point, but there are several other lists including repo-slopscore and Weird Little Guys
[–] dusk@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weird little guys is an interesting read, I was surprised to find Jeff Geerling there, I always thought he was just a really crappy youtuber, with really stupid fans. I was half expecting to find Linus SebastiDouche on the list afterwards.

[–] shrek_is_love@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I liked him a lot. I first learned about Jellyfin from his video just a few years ago. I would've bet money that Linus TT would be on such a list before Jeff Geerling. I don't have a parasocial relationship or idolize YouTubers, but I'm definitely still disappointed. (Maybe I was a stupid fan, but now I'm just stupid 💀)

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I do like Jeff's videos, he comes across as a true engineering nerd. I find his SBC reviews to be pretty thorough and some of his other videos make for an interesting side quest on stuff he's interested in.

I certainly don't view DeVaults purity list as the authority on if I should watch someone's videos or not.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jeff never made sense to me, his videos seemed dodgy, the first one I saw he was jumping on the linus screwdriver silly hype train, but his fans just adored him, to the point I assumed some of them were drooling. I didn't see much more of him over the years, so my view is definitely limited.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His video on the screwdriver was like the only one of it that (at least at the time) tried to actually compare it with others and not just say it's amazing like all of the other YouTubers were doing at that time, but obviously, those ones were sponsored, jeffs wasn't (iirc)

[–] dusk@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was a successful/cheap way of attracting views/likes, that also increased ltt's screwdriver sales. It was transparent, and lacked integrity. The screwdriver itself was just a lightly reworked screwdriver form a different brand, with ltt branding, and a $69 price tag. Tools for fools.

Project Farm did it worse (and more successfully), he reached a result that didn't place the ltt screwdriver in 1st place, so he removed one of his own criteria to change the final ranking... and was applauded for doing so.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's been ages since i saw the video but didn't Jeff bring that up? He said shivering along the lines of that the ltt screwdriver was good but it might not be that good given it's price and the one it borrowed it's design from being cheaper and probably more bang for your buck.

I might be misremembering though, it wouldn't be the first time.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

It's a long time ago, I don't remember the specifics of the video, and probably didn't like his video (partially) due to it being just another one jumping on the ltt screwdriver bandwagon, that sh*t was everywhere, I tend to block channels that have linus's munted head in their thumbnails these days.

I do remember jeff having a weird bunch of fans hanging off of his every word, I wondered who this guy was, and why he seemed so famous, but I had never heard of him. I have seen some of his videos since, he seems like a twat, unfortunately common in the pc tech space.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I recommend everybody read the 9front manual.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't managed to get past their home page yet, it just looks like an inside joke.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After glancing at the manual, I now know I was previously correct stopping at the home page

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's OK, 9 front isn't right for everybody.

For instance, it is not for me.

I enjoyed the manual though.

[–] dusk@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

8 butt is probably more my style

[–] dusk@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

The manual, section 1:

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[–] Crumpled6273@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Why don't kde? Are they also into AI slop? I didn't used elementaryOS yet. Is elementaryOS a good daily driver? Also what about Arch?