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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 47 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Raising Prices and making them the EXACT same as Computers but Worse didn't bring in MORE Sales? Quick! MAYBE if we Raise the Prices MORE it'll Reverse course!

-EVERY High Paid CEO ever!

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

EXACT same as Computers

I wouldn't call it exact same. Hardware, yes, compatible. But that is not what a console is about. The hardware compatibility to a PC if any is a positive for consoles, because it makes ports and develop on the games much easier without much fuss. And consoles aren't worse to a PC in all cases, they still have some value. The operating system and game compatibility, and ease of use are major factors.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not exactly the same, but I do feel like it's almost always worse in the console side these days (excepting Nintendo here).

On console you're juggling patches and updates, installing to drive, you have concerns about whether games will play well on non-pro versions of the system, Xbox is traditionally hostile to physical media while PS is ending it.

If you're going to install digital games and download updates, worry about compatibility, might as well play on PC. Those issues are less on console, but present on both.

Meanwhile most games are getting PC ports (since modern consoles are very PC like and games need the extra sales), you're not as locked down to a single store, you have more room to upgrade incrementally (in theory). Operating system is also in favor of PC.

Ease of use I'd still grant that consoles have advantage, sure.

I don't argue all this to put down consoles, I love consoles and played only/mostly on consoles for many years. But I think there's a lot of truth to saying modern PS and Xbox have moved so close to PC that they're losing the pros and embracing the same cons.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is a much more nuanced take I could agree with. The previous comment wasn't like that. I decided to go full PC gaming around the end of XBOX 360 generation, because I saw it coming and consoles were more PC like ever, and PCs (thanks to Steam) more console like ever. It's been what, 2 decades almost and I can say confidently that consoles are not exactly the same like PCs.

But in an other comment the user I replied to said he didn't even talk about all of the stuff, but was talking about the price. If we talk about the price, yeah sure, the gap has almost vanished. One of the biggest advantages of buying a console was also its initial price of hardware.

As for the PC more and more like console, it's even more true with something like Steam Machine and Steam Deck, but without the downside of locked down console. That's the closest we get to a console like experience and usability. Meanwhile current gen consoles have a PC architecture, getting digital only, supports keyboard (and mouse?) for selected games, updates are similar to PC, but without the issues of a PC. The user does not need to type in password on boot, doesn't need to update several parts of the system, no need to install drivers.

They are closer than ever in history of computing, PC and gaming. But there are lot of differences that I cannot say exactly the same (which you personally agree with me, based on the reply).

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The user does not need to type in password on boot, doesn't need to update several parts of the system, no need to install drivers.

That's how it works on a steam machine/deck. You get an update from steam that updates your whole system. That's it. If you install other stuff from outside steam then things change, but you can't do that in a console anyway.

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That’s how it works on a steam machine/deck.

I know (own first gen Steam Deck myself), but most people don't have SteamOS. In Windows this is still necessary, because it's not just for gaming and unlike SteamOS it isn't read only mode.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's an user problem. SteamOS is already compatible with many pc's, and there are other linux distros that work similar to steamos when it comes to updating. Users still want windows when for the majority of them, it's a non-issue to switch to linux.

People want windows but then complain that windows is awful. I mean, stop hitting yourself?

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

The problem is that not all hardware and software functions under Linux.

[–] ceiphas@feddit.org 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It was about the prices... THEY are the same

[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

Oh, right. I thought you were talking about the architecture. And for the prices, well I wouldn't say its the same, but let's say that consoles no longer have a price advantage of the hardware. Because PCs gone up in prices too, as consoles gone up, so consoles never catched up to PC in that regard.