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[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

На самом деле я говорю на трех разных языках. Только не этот. Я не должен знать, что это значит.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, it's a popular Latin phrase used in English, it means, who benefits?

As in, where is the motive?

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I would argue that Russia benefits from sowing discord, something it has historically demonstrated a consistent willingness to do.

Think about it: the more Americans hate socialism, the more likely they are to support capitalism without questioning whether the current system actually serves their interests. A population conditioned to reject anything labeled socialist is less likely to support policies that could benefit the general public, even when those policies have broad public support. From that perspective, why wouldn't Russia encourage that kind of division?

To answer your question, Russia stands to benefit from this strategy or, at the very least, its leadership believes it does.

[–] doben@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

The US government is the absolute arch enemy of anything actually socialist. To construct some weird ass reasoning, that any kind of foreign interference amplifies that very fringe aspect of US society is … man, I would argue that you‘ve got brain worms (but more likely a default western mind, which you yourself are the master of, if only you dared).

The US population is conditioned to reject anything labeled socialist since the Russian revolution in 1917, the very moment the proletariat brought the evidence, that the exploited class is able to govern itself. That radiated internationally, as evidenced by the establishment of communist parties in the following years all around the world.

The US elites, panicked a worker’s revolution could threaten their rule, and immediately joined forces to invade Soviet Russia to try and put an end to that (but failed). The US did not recognize Soviet Russia until 1933, in fear to legitimize the Bolsheviks.
The US immediately started its domestic red scare propaganda and repression of anything vaguely critical of the government, so mostly anarchists, communists and worker unions.
The US/CIA ever since has been the main actor to topple and squash any attempts of socialism (or otherwise unaligned rule) by force, going as far as to genocide the native population, see Korea, Vietnam, where it slaugthered millions. It‘s using military force, interference and coups until today.
The reason there even was a Cold War was, because the US capitalist class was scared that the communist idea would tale hold and thereby forced the war ridden and slaughtered Soviet people into an perpetual arms race so it wouldn‘t be abble to get crushed by the US war machine. Resources that would have been needed in other places.
US propaganda is the very reason, that nowadays a bunch of so-called socialists hold the conviction, that communism is somehow bad or evil, because it put a lot of energy into building that narrative.
The US produced the so-called Compatible Left to pacify the movement, so it wouldn‘t grow to become a danger for the ruling class. A philosophical poison throughout the western hemisphere.

No foreign actor needs to add a drop into the ocean that is US anti-communism, that‘s the definition of a wasted effort. The USA IS anti-communism by being the capitalist world hegemon. US-Americans fully support capitalism, because it‘s their domestic ideology, their only conceivable reality. Their country and their system has become the sole ruler of the world (or, has been as of lately) ever since the Soviet Union as a counterweight vanished. That‘s also a good chunk of the reasons why the world has been in constant crisis ever since. They really don‘t need Russia for any of that.

I’m absolute certain, that you have absolutely no fucking clue, what you are talking about. Would you be an LLM, we‘d conclude that you are hallucinating.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

This is an absolutely extraordinary amount of words to say absolutely nothing of substance in response to my original comment, which was simply that Russian bot farms and propaganda mills have an interest in sowing discord in American society, including by promoting divisive political positions.

You have provided absolutely no evidence that any of your claims are true. Instead, you've strung together a collection of historical events, ideological talking points, and wild assumptions, then presented the resulting narrative as established fact. You're making an absurd number of leaps in logic and treating your own interpretations of history as conclusive proof of a sweeping conspiracy.

Much of this reads like the standard conspiratorial nonsense that circulates in the darker corners of YouTube, where a handful of historical facts are cherry-picked, stripped of context, and assembled into some grand theory explaining everything. You seem to have mistaken the ability to construct a coherent narrative for the ability to substantiate one.

And the funniest part is that you're doing all of this in response to a comment that wasn't even making the argument you're attempting to dismantle. I never claimed that American anti-communism was created by Russia, nor did I suggest that foreign propaganda was responsible for America's historical hostility toward socialism. My point was that foreign actors can exploit existing political divisions to sow further discord. Those are two entirely different propositions, and the fact that you can't seem to distinguish between them is rather telling.

If you're surprised that I supposedly know nothing about socialism, I'm equally surprised that you've managed to string together so many words that appear coherent to the people reading them, considering how little actual evidence or logical rigor you've brought to the discussion.

[–] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It would pay more dividends to radicalize as many young men to the right as possible. You know, the side that does the domestic terrorism

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

I thought I blocked your delusional ass.

Btw I'm still not banned from work reform and am able to post comments.