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[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 41 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Passkeys are greate as long you make sure you use a third party (partial) password app, like proton or bitwarden that works everywhere.

[–] IanTwenty@piefed.social 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I think the worry is that if passkey attestation is required it will force people into a narrow set of authenticators controlled by the big orgs.

At this point in time it's not a problem, but how can we know it won't be in future?

[–] LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works 23 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

This right here. KeepassXC (PC) already had passkey support for a while, KeepassDX (Android) recently implemented support. If you use FOSS implementations, vendor lock-in and potential future corporate enshittification are non-issues.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

vendor lock-in and potential future corporate enshittification are non-issues.

For now.

In some countries, banks require users use their app on IOS or Google'd Android. You can't use their services via browser, LineageOS, GrapheneOS

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck off with that defeatist bullshit.

Make them drag you ckicking and screaming. Only morons and cowards walk in lock-step with the corpos

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Then don't use these websites and this is a non issue

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Ah, but of course! Why didn't I think of closing my bank account?

[–] lemdeggity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The argument from the "it's a trap" article is that the service you are registering to can use attestation to ensure that you are only using passkey managers that they approve.

I have to admit that I haven't investigated this thoroughly myself but if the protocol can be abused in that way then your only choice really would be not to use the service. If it is related to banking or government services then you may not have much of a choice.

[–] KaninchenSpeed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The web api for fido2/passkeys exposes attestation information.

Warning: Attestation provides a way for a relying party to determine the provenance of an authenticator. Relying parties should not attempt to maintain allowlists of authenticators.

from https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Authentication_API

[–] eah@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Mozilla's warning is funny. "Don't use this to reject attestations from unapproved authenticators!" That's, like, almost the entire purpose to attestation. It tells you an Apple device or a YubiKey or whatever created the credential. What else could you use this information for other than to make life harder for users using certain authenticators?

[–] LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

I did read that part, but like you, I haven't been able to independently verify it yet.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

They'll learn like I did the hard way. Lol