Matrix was built to become the open communication of the web and serve everyone. But, as the Internet and email did, its network effect started with governments. Today, and as proven by the audience in the room, most European governments and several others are either using it or looking at implementing it for their communications. This talk will tell the story of how we got there and why.

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[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

Speaking from experience, matrix is still kinda rough around the edges if you have a 100+ person group with non-technical users.

More broadly, pretty much all of the secure messengers currently have an ~O(N^2) problem with state sync in groups. The only one that isn't deeply frustrating is Signal and that's largely because it has very few features and can't be self hosted.

[–] grapemix@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Why would ppl use group chat for 100+ ppl, just why? Should not something like Lemmy plus Notification suit the role better? I saw ppl use group chat as gallery sharing but when I saw it is WhatsApp, wechat, line... Well, those big corp deserve it.

[–] morallysuperior@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well I'm part of a vegan cooking discord server where people share recipes, photos of what they made, ideas, blogs, links, questions across a few channels and the discord is way more active than the reddit and lemmy sites. There are about 200 members and at any time 30 people are online.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That's what a static forum with comments is for 😂

Using discord/matrix for this means that to get to a recipe, you have to scroll through 100 comments.about recipes not linked to the recipes, and you can't browse the recipes. You just have to be there or never know it happened pretty much.

Also why support "found" using discord like zephyr have almost 0 help on them at all.

[–] grapemix@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Am I the only one think group chat's model is highly inefficient in energy, bandwidth,computational power, storage when group size is larger than 20 ppl? Basically anything not need fast response and attention for everyone should not use it. We have so many better options. And ppl wonder why we run out of ram. Yes AI is main cause, but ppl really abuse mobile so much and some ppl have to get a new phone every year. So many e-waste

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