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I think federation and decentralization work well for email and text-messaging platforms like XMPP and Matrix because those platforms inherently benefit from being decentralized. They work almost seamlessly with federation.

Forums, on the other hand, don’t really need a federated system. Just look at Lemmy and how many communities defederate from one another because of ideological disagreements. When there’s that much defederation, the entire concept starts to feel pointless. Suddenly, you can’t use your account across “Lemmy” because several instances have decided they don’t like each other anymore.

If this much fragmentation is going to happen naturally, how is federation supposed to be the sustainable future of forums?

I think this is a fair criticism of federated forums. You don’t see this same level of fragmentation with email or text messaging.

Centralized but well-moderated forums are what really matter. Federation doesn’t protect good or useful speech, quality moderation does. And by its nature, Lemmy lacks that.

EDIT: There may have been a misunderstanding on my part on what defederation exactly means in the context of Lemmy

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Just look at Lemmy and how many communities defederate from one another because of ideological disagreements

Lol...

Decentralizing isn't good if you want everyone in the same spot, that is correct...

But why does everyone need crammed together?

Some people just don't vibe, if no one wants to federate with an instance, they don't have to.

I'll never understand why people who grew up with big social media are so hung up up on this idea that one platform has to host everyone.

Like, a shit ton of fractured forums was the norm for decades, long before Facebook, twitter, or insta. Everyone going to the same place is a new thing, and if people are here it's because they didn't think it worked out.

You don't, you think it's great for insanely wealthy tech ros to control every conversation.

Cool.

Go there, none of us care

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