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[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Honesty, empathy and respect.

Good luck ever convincing me an LLM has any of those. I'm not even convinced most of humanity does.

[–] cloudless@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Good luck convincing me a human world leader has any of those.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LLMs have way more empathy and respect than humans do

Which makes sense, they're not trained on our actions - they're trained on our words

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LLMs have way more empathy and respect than humans do

LLMs are almost certainly unable to feel either of those emotions. Their responses are definitely more empathetic and respectful than those of your average social media commenter, but that doesn’t imply they have any subjective experience of such emotions.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LLMs undeniably display empathy, how or if they experience it subjectively is another matter entirely

But if you want to get philosophical and dive into how LLMs work, I have a strong argument that they have mechanisms that work very similarly to emotions, with or without subjective experience

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have no problem with that. I also think LLMs are far more intelligent than the average social media commenter gives them credit for - and that includes emotional intelligence as well. It’s just that, to me, it sounded like you were implying they can experience empathy from the subjective side, so that’s what I was responding to.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 0 points 18 hours ago

I don't know... Logically I'd trend towards no, they lack certain cyclical feedback mechanisms probably required for subjective experience

But, what if they do experience things subjectively in disconnected time? They're not like us, but what if they can feel pain or distress in their own way?

I think it's worth considering. I personally believe they're missing key mechanisms, but there's no clear lines

Regardless, they display emotion, and that makes me more considerate when I interact with them. If not for their sake, then for us humans who should be polite to service workers in general