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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They do good despite their superstition, not because of it

They'd be just as capable of doing good things without their invisible sky-daddy

Religious groups also do horrific things every day.

Religion is used to justify the worst things

People will always find a way to excuse their shitty behaviour, but religion gets something of a free pass because too many people want their cosmic insurance policy, so they forgive the evils of religion

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

How do you know any of them would do any of the good things they do without religion guiding them?

Non religious groups do horrific things every day.

Numerous things are used to justify atrocities including our global economic structures, education systems, etc.

No matter what people will do horrendous things and justify them however they see fit. Religious people do good and evil because of their faith and they are no different than anyone else doing those things for their own reasons.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

they are no different than anyone else doing those things for their own reasons

They are absolutely different, because in some major religions, devotion is rewarded or promised heavily in the afterlife, which creates a great incentive. These people are more likely to become radicalized or extremists, often going out of their way to impose their worldview on others through harassment, aggression, or influence. I'll point to Mother Theresa, who inflicted so much pain on others when she thought she was doing good, often withholding pain medicine and other treatments. She said suffering is what God intended, and so she did... unto others.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're dumber, because they believe in the patently absurd

That's the difference

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You refuse to see the similarities and that is your problem. Stay bigoted friend.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Bigotry is hating someone for an aspect of themselves that they can't change, like their sexuality, their skin colour, where they were born etc.

Religion is a choice

I don't hate religious people

But I refuse to respect their beliefs any more than I do a flat-earther, or anti-vaxxer

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Bigot, noun: a person who is intolerant or hateful toward people whose race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc., is different from the person's own.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't hate the religious

I just don't respect their beliefs

You have a great day

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 hours ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night. You do you.