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[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"if you put in the wrong figures, will the correct ones be output"

To be fair, an 1840 “computer” might be able to tell there was something wrong with the figures and ask about it or even correct them herself.

Babbage was being a bit obtuse there; people weren't familiar with computing machines yet. Computer was a job, and computers were expected to be fairly intelligent.

In fact I'd say that if anything this question shows that the questioner understood enough about the new machine to realise it was not the same as they understood a computer to be, and lacked many of their abilities, and was just looking for Babbage to confirm their suspicions.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"Computer" meaning a mechanical/electro-mechanical/electrical machine wasn't used until around after WWII.

Babbag's difference/analytical engines weren't confusing because people called them a computer, they didn't.

"On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

  • Charles Babbage

If you give any computer, human or machine, random numbers, it will not give you "correct answers".

It's possible Babbage lacked the social skills to detect sarcasm. We also have several high profile cases of people just trusting LLMs to file legal briefs and official government 'studies' because the LLM "said it was real".

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 hours ago

What they mean is that before Turing, "computer" was literally a person's job description. You hand a professional a stack of calculations with some typos, part of the job is correcting those out. Newfangled machine comes along with the same name as the job, among the first thing people are gonna ask about is where it fall short.

Like, if I made a machine called "assistant", it'd be natural for people to point out and ask about all the things a person can do that a machine just never could.